thanks for the info i will check it out,i know theres allot of kits for the a arms, but to get the travel takes 4000+ dollars with a giant or blitzkrieg suspension kit.if its more expensive to do a i beam conversion than to buy blitzkrieg lt race kit than i will save up lots of money for the a arm kit.And critter dude i know theres a shit load of ground clearance u can get out of a ranger,but what i do my f250 is fine,i used a prerunner suspension setup for late 90s early 2000 excursions made by evo racing and it has a shit load of suspension travel and articulation.plus theres no mods for bigger engines,or stronger drivetrain its already there,plus i can use it to tow 10000 lbs with no problems,cant really do that with a ranger.also not saying your an asshole,wouldn't say that to someone i don't know from Adam, just saying unless you did a side by side comparison in rock crawling,mud racing ext. its just not possible to say my f250s better than your rangers vise versa. just measured my ground clearance to the part of my t-case and its 38inches , thats not little ground clearance.i don't have a pic phone or camera to take a pic of my f250 so for u to get an idea of how it looks,go to Google image's and type in f250 ranger ,the second row on the left shows a brown f250.mine has 37 theres has 40s,my tires a 2 inches above the bottom frame line(stole my idea from them) would tell you where there internet site is but just cant find the url,maybe u can tho.