2010 2wd ranger lift, HELP!

[slater50]

So, im in a pickle & research is inconclusive so figured maybe someone here has been there or has resources to set me straight.
Little background, been a ford engine tech for 32 years...
Bought my teen son a 2wd single cab 4cylinder ranger.
Has front coil springs & also has the dreaded traction control, has an on/off switch below the radio console.
Research ive done state lift spindles ive seen like maxitrac wont work due to the sensor....

Has anyone here successfully lifted one of these? What is the answer...
Not looking to make it a monster truck, just a little ya bro lift on the front & some 31's or 265 75 15's....

I do have some calls out & waiting for people to get back to me...
I did see on eBay "spindle esource" has a 3" coil spring but some are saying pointless without an upper control arm.

Clueless & hoping to find a solution, one way or another....
Thanks!

 

[Blmpkn]

Yeap, spindles don't play nice with the nanny systems on the 'newer' trucks unfortunately.

Longer coils or spring spacers.. the ride will get crappier the higher you go. Each inch higher is an inch less downtravel.

 

[slater50]

Yeap, spindles don't play nice with the nanny systems on the 'newer' trucks unfortunately.

Longer coils or spring spacers.. the ride will get crappier the higher you go. Each inch higher is an inch less downtravel.

found these 3" springs, they also have 2" version...
Description still states wont work with "stabilitrack"

3.0" 4 CYL LIFT COIL SPRINGS FITS 2001 - 2010 Ford Ranger 2WD 4 CYLINDER 3.0" | eBay

THESE COILS WILL ALLOW YOU TO LIFT YOUR TRUCK 3" IN THE FRONT. This is one of the many kits we have for the Ranger trucks. 2wd Coil Spring Models ONLY. 2- 3.0" 4CYL LIFT COIL SPRINGS. Our goal is to make your international purchasing process as straightforward and predictable as possible.

www.ebay.com

 

[Blmpkn]

found these 3" springs, they also have 2" version...
Description still states wont work with "stabilitrack"

3.0" 4 CYL LIFT COIL SPRINGS FITS 2001 - 2010 Ford Ranger 2WD 4 CYLINDER 3.0" | eBay

THESE COILS WILL ALLOW YOU TO LIFT YOUR TRUCK 3" IN THE FRONT. This is one of the many kits we have for the Ranger trucks. 2wd Coil Spring Models ONLY. 2- 3.0" 4CYL LIFT COIL SPRINGS. Our goal is to make your international purchasing process as straightforward and predictable as possible.

www.ebay.com

There should be no reason for springs/spacers to not get along with stabilitrak. The sensor can properly read what it needs to and the suspension is still working within it's engineered range of motion..

That being said.. 3" springs are gonna leave next to no downtravel and it'll ride like shit.

I had 30s on my 2010 2wd when I had it, no lift, and everything was fine. Had it off-road a few times with no rubbing..

All you really need is an inch to fit 31s nicely. An inch up front coupled with the couple inches given by the bigger tires and it'll have a completely different look to it.

 

[sgtsandman]

I moved the thread to 2WD Suspension and Frames. It's a better fit there and might get more viewing traffic.

 

[slater50]

digging deeper cuz it what I do......
Doetsch is nolonger in the spindle business....
My buddy has a 2010 just like mine, with stabilitrack, he has spindles & it works without issue.
They guy who installed his will probably do mine but at this point nobody remember what brand spindles, & what was modded to make them work....
My buddies son seems to remember they were maxtracs.
Send the pic to them & their guess is they may not be...
Sent pic to doetsch & waiting to here back...
Another local shop says hes confident he can install maxtracs & just space out the sensor & that will work.
So confident he says no charge / free to put it back to stock if it doesnt work....

Told by buddy to get in there & visually look to see if the sensor has some sort of washer or shim between the sensor & the spindle. Cant sell from the pic but for some reason its not a factor bolt which could be as simple as different thread size than factory....

So end of the day im pretty confident its going up in the front one way or another....
Talk to a few guys also that have 2.5" -3" coil spacers without UCA'
s & they feel thats not an issue either....

This truck is just a 2.3L, only 50k miles & couldn't pass up the deal as clean as it is..
Then produces the question, do I really want to go with 31's or go a little smaller to keep it peppy vs doggy.....??

 

[slater50]

So got the spindle lift figured out, hasn't been done yet but from my resources...
Spindles can be used with stability track, just need to modify the outer frame of the sensors to fit in the sensors...

So were going to lift the front & stick some 31's under her. Pretty typical size out here in San Diego on this application.

Would be cool to get a tire with some more aggressive sidewall like a mud terrain but dont think im going there, but not certain.
Being a 4cyl, want to keep weight to a minimum. Falken wildppeaks at4 or Toyo OpenCountry at or RT are about 50+ lbs each...

I could do 31 10.5 15, or 265 75 15, relatively the same size...
the p metric options are lighter, assuming visually they will be equally impressive visually than a 31 10.5 15?
#1 on the list is the Cooper Discoverer at3 4s in 265 75 15, 38lbs each.
Sidewall is meh but doable, might turn into it is what it is, can have everything...

Anyone here been there, done that, know of similar. tire or reccs, aggressive look, etc...?

what tire I should look at?

 

[sgtsandman]

So got the spindle lift figured out, hasn't been done yet but from my resources...
Spindles can be used with stability track, just need to modify the outer frame of the sensors to fit in the sensors...

So were going to lift the front & stick some 31's under her. Pretty typical size out here in San Diego on this application.

Would be cool to get a tire with some more aggressive sidewall like a mud terrain but dont think im going there, but not certain.
Being a 4cyl, want to keep weight to a minimum. Falken wildppeaks at4 or Toyo OpenCountry at or RT are about 50+ lbs each...

I could do 31 10.5 15, or 265 75 15, relatively the same size...
the p metric options are lighter, assuming visually they will be equally impressive visually than a 31 10.5 15?
#1 on the list is the Cooper Discoverer at3 4s in 265 75 15, 38lbs each.
Sidewall is meh but doable, might turn into it is what it is, can have everything...

Anyone here been there, done that, know of similar. tire or reccs, aggressive look, etc...?

what tire I should look at?

You can get an all terrain that has a fairly agressive look to them. Falken Wildpeaks have had good reviews and won't be as expensive as BF Goodrich, not to say they are a bad tire. Just expensive. Jim Oaks has a set of Maxxis tires on his 2019+ Ranger that might be worth a look as well. You'd need to look at his build thread on the TRS3 to see what model they are.

 

[slater50]

TRS3

Ive got hard decisions to make..
They conservative side of me says forget the aggressive tire look & get the Cooper Discoverer at3 in 265 75 15 @ 38lbs each...
Jim is running Maxxis Razr AT's now which are available in 31 10.5 15, 47lbs each, nice looking tire, not as heavy as the Toyos or The Falkens, but still heavy....

Seems like the best of both worlds doesnt exist....

 

[Blmpkn]

So got the spindle lift figured out, hasn't been done yet but from my resources...
Spindles can be used with stability track, just need to modify the outer frame of the sensors to fit in the sensors...

So were going to lift the front & stick some 31's under her. Pretty typical size out here in San Diego on this application.

Would be cool to get a tire with some more aggressive sidewall like a mud terrain but dont think im going there, but not certain.
Being a 4cyl, want to keep weight to a minimum. Falken wildppeaks at4 or Toyo OpenCountry at or RT are about 50+ lbs each...

I could do 31 10.5 15, or 265 75 15, relatively the same size...
the p metric options are lighter, assuming visually they will be equally impressive visually than a 31 10.5 15?
#1 on the list is the Cooper Discoverer at3 4s in 265 75 15, 38lbs each.
Sidewall is meh but doable, might turn into it is what it is, can have everything...

Anyone here been there, done that, know of similar. tire or reccs, aggressive look, etc...?

what tire I should look at?

Awesome news about getting spindles to work with the nanny systems, it would be AWESOME if you could/would write a tech article for the forum about the process.. it would help who knows how many people out in the future

 

[slater50]

So now that I have the spindles on & got everything dialed-in, wanted to give an update as theres really zero information out there, other than the spindle lift doesnt work on the 2010-2011 ranger with stability track....
As stated on every available spindle out there....
I bought the Wulf spindles.
Need to modify / trim the outer mounting frame around the abs sensor so you can get the sensor closer to the rotor pickup wheel....
Pretty much trial & error till you get it right, but since I was a ford mechanic for 32 years I had resources, tools, laptops to monitor the abs sensor signal....

Where I screwed up is I never checked the air-gap on the stock config, if I knew that gap, life would have been somewhat easier....
Initially I installed the sensor & the sensors weren't ready at all, due to excessive distance / air gap.
I trimmed & was able to get the sensor air gap about 3 sheets of paper thick...
1 sensor was stable while the other wasnt,
Looking at the abs wheel speed sensor pid, you can see how the passenger side data wasnt stable, would fall-out, especially if you jerked the wheel...
Thought, lets tighten the wheel bearing a fuzz more, that resolved nothing...
Trimmed some more, & brought the sensor a fuzz closer,
Cleared the light, monitored number & all dialed in now.....

That being said, if you didnt care about the abs / stability track function, once the light comes on & becomes a hard fault, the vehicle is fully drivable....

It doesnt stay into fail-safe mode which makes the vehicle not drivable, that information thats out on the inter web just isnt true,
Vehicle drives fine, just no abs function...

 

[slater50]

There was additional minor trimming around the entire perimeter of the sensor, and especially the upper section where the wire is after these pics.
I also shaved some metal. The spindle wire rests up against the boss for the sensor, just to make sure the wire wasn’t causing the sensor to bind up and not flush.
The pics were before doing minor shaving to the spindle where the abs wire rests using a air die grinder & a bur bit....
Had to slot the mounting hole to make the bolt hole in the spindle to align with the sensor hole as it wouldn’t at first without slotting.

 

[Ricklapointe63]

So now that I have the spindles on & got everything dialed-in, wanted to give an update as theres really zero information out there, other than the spindle lift doesnt work on the 2010-2011 ranger with stability track....
As stated on every available spindle out there....
I bought the Wulf spindles.
Need to modify / trim the outer mounting frame around the abs sensor so you can get the sensor closer to the rotor pickup wheel....
Pretty much trial & error till you get it right, but since I was a ford mechanic for 32 years I had resources, tools, laptops to monitor the abs sensor signal....

Where I screwed up is I never checked the air-gap on the stock config, if I knew that gap, life would have been somewhat easier....
Initially I installed the sensor & the sensors weren't ready at all, due to excessive distance / air gap.
I trimmed & was able to get the sensor air gap about 3 sheets of paper thick...
1 sensor was stable while the other wasnt,
Looking at the abs wheel speed sensor pid, you can see how the passenger side data wasnt stable, would fall-out, especially if you jerked the wheel...
Thought, lets tighten the wheel bearing a fuzz more, that resolved nothing...
Trimmed some more, & brought the sensor a fuzz closer,
Cleared the light, monitored number & all dialed in now.....

That being said, if you didnt care about the abs / stability track function, once the light comes on & becomes a hard fault, the vehicle is fully drivable....

It doesnt stay into fail-safe mode which makes the vehicle not drivable, that information thats out on the inter web just isnt true,
Vehicle drives fine, just no abs function...

 

[Ricklapointe63]

Your MY Hero!
I have been researching this for my 2910 2x4 for freaking ever!
Thanks
Now here's my question to you, I only want to lift my cab 2 or 3" inches.
Can this be done?
The reason is I put on a flat deck box with just half circle fenders which I can mount at any height on box sides.
Need to lift cab for larger tires and a better look.
Thanks in advance
Rick

 

[slater50]

Went with Toyo OC AT3 SL in 265 75 15 which is alot lighter than a 31" but same size....

Dont love the wheels but they were on there when I bought the truck...