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2.5 swap complete


rangerguy

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Mississippi
Vehicle Year
1993
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Automatic
Hey guys, just wanted to post on my recent engine swap.
First,..a little history leading to this.......
I had a 95 Mazda 2.3 with a fried engine.
I had a 93 2.3 engine on hand in great shape but then learned (on here) that the swap wasn't feasible due to the sensor situation on the cam and crank.

Fellow forum member snipecastle2 had a 92 Ranger needing an engine and had what was presumed to be a 96 2.3 engine on hand.
Ofcourse, both engine families were different and so we traded to make our swaps possible on each of our trucks.
My 93 in his 92.....and his 96 in my 95.

Upon further inspection after the trade, I learned that the engine I traded for was not a 1996 2.3 but rather a 1998 2.5L. So once again, I was cussing Ford for their twists in the engine design every few years. But after reading several posts on here (thanks Hardwareman!!)... I learned it was possible and what I needed to get the swap accomplished.

Thought I would share what I ran across regarding this swap.

[1] I read a few other posts that mentioned the 2.5L computer needed to be used for it to run properly. Well,...I used the factory 1995 computer for the 2.3 and it runs awesome. So the 2.5 computer is NOT required.

[2] The 2.5 uses a different upper water neck that has two sensors rather than the single sensor on the 2.3L.... The harness from my 2.3 plugs right into the rearward sensor and the front one I just left unplugged.

[3] The headers on the 2.5L are bulky cast pieces that weighed a ton. I used the lightweight tubular style headers that came on my 1995 2.3L.....which also matches properly with my harness and O2 sensor plug. Exhaust ports on the 2.3 and 2.5 are also identical.

[4] I used the intake manifold from my 2.3L because I am running an automatic and so I have a few extra various pieces here that were not on the 2.5 because it came from a manual tranny truck. I only mention the intake note here to clarify that the ports lign up perfectly and use the same gaskets.

[5] Keep the lower radiator hose on your 2.3L when switching to a 2.5L because they are shaped totally different due to the frame differences on the 98-up trucks. Using the 2.5 lower radiator hose in a pre-98 truck causes a severe angle that almost cuts off the coolant flowing through it.

[6] Use the oil dipstick and tube from the 2.5 because they longer due to the increased oil capacity of the 2.5 oil pan. Also, oil pan clearance on the 2.5 in a pre-98 truck is not an issue.

[7] The oil pressure switch location on the block of the 2.3 has a different setup on the 2.5L engine. It's a simple fix. Just take the switch from the 2.3 and place it in the 2.5 where there is a hose port sticking out in that very spot. The threads are the same.

[8] Keep your engine mounts on your 2.3 as the 2.5 uses a two bolt style instead of the single bolt style found on 93-97 Rangers.


As for any performance difference in this engine over the 2.3 that I had before,...it's hard to say. I am convinced that it pulls overdrive much better on hills at highway speed than the 2.3 did. But as for acceleration and the rest,... I cant notice any difference at all really.

I want to thank castleguy2 (Ben) on here again for being my source of an engine I couldnt seem to find here locally. I know he must feel I robbed him blind after I found out the engine was a 2.5 and not a 2.3 but he's a swell guy and Im sure he will get over it some day. I hope he has great luck with my engine in his ride as well.

And thanks again to Hardwareman on here. Because I was left unsure again as to having an engine I could use until I saw his pics and posts on here concerning his 2.5 swap.

This forum has helped me bigtime
 
Glad it went good for you RangerGuy!

Yeah like you said, I just did this swap about 2 weeks ago or so and your explanation of things is "hit the nail on the head" accurate.

The real power increase that I notice is on slight grades where I used to have to downshift. I no longer need to downshift with the 2.5 on the same grades and mileage seems to be about the same as well.

The 2.3 computer is all that's required like you said. I could'nt get the 2.5 to work, but only tried it briefly. I left the front coolant temp sensor unplugged too......hahahahaha. The 2.3 harness only plugs into the rear.

This information should be a candidate for the "tech LIbrary" to help anyone interested in the swap. Unfortunately I have "ONE" issue with my Ranger now and it's not engine related but rather a sensor or circuit problem. My IAC valve does not seem to work properly and I've changed it out to no avail. I'm certain whatever the mystery is, it's what's causing a slight miss at idle until she's warmed up.

Good Job!!!




Allen
 
swap

Patrick,
Almost have my swap done, but the heat and humidity have been outrageous these last few days, Iv'e had to postpone the completion of mine.
Hopefully, I'll have it finished by Wednesday. I'm not worried about the fact the engine you got was a 2.5, I'm happy it worked out for you. All that driving was worth the effort though, even though I almost had a tragic accident with my full size on the way back- I found the oil filter was loose and leaking profusely (I had "Jiffy Lube" do the oil change on my truck) any way's, I got a piece of that manager's a$$. Bet they watch what they do from now on..... bo0y, that could have been really ugly....could have got me stranded, they would have had to buy me a new engine, towing fee's, hotel,etc..... glad I found it when I did. Good luck with the engine and thanks again!
Ben:headbang:
 
Hey Hw man I've got a question for ya.... How were you able to smog and register your truck in Ca with the different disp. motor in it?
 
I just smogged it this April, but I really don't see a problem getting it smogged again in 2 years because the 2.5 is axactly the same block as my old 2.3 and all my 2.3 stuff's bolted onto it. All the emission stuff is there and the tech probably won't even know it's the 2.5.

Now if I did a 5.0 swap or something I'd probably be in a little trouble but from what I understand as long as you have the same vehicle year or newer engine and all the emission equipment that goes with it, you're fine.



Allen
 
Ben,
I was worried when I first heard of your incident on the way back home. Good thing you were ontop of it before it was too late.

Let me know how your swap goes!!

I've logged nearly 800 miles on mine so far and the only issue I've had was a blown out upper radiator hose. The 2.5 and 2.3 upper hoses are shaped differently just like the lower one was and rubbed the AC compressor pulley when the chassis flexed. Got a new one and trimmed it back by a half inch before putting it on and got the clearance I needed.
It definitely appears that the a-arm equipped 98-up trucks had the radiator distance from the engine different than that of the pre 98 models.
Even the part numbers at Autozone were different but the difference is very hard to spot with the naked eye so that difference slipped by un noticed to me the first go round.
Anyway,..small problem and now fixed.

I seem to be getting 24 to 26 mpg from this engine. I only get about 19 mpg from the Splash with the 3.0 so I am definitely saving some money each week by using the 4 banger for my daily driver. Thanks again Ben.

Patrick
 

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