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04' Suspension ?'s...


subydrift

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I posted this over in the 2WD Suspension section but then i jumped over here and figured it might be more relevant over here....

So like everyone on here I'm looking to lift my 2wd Ranger. I eventually want to build it into a prerunner but that won't be for a long time so for now I just want something that will lift about 2" and give a stronger ride than stock but not be bouncy. I want to try and avoid the spring spacers if I can and go with a full lift spring. I found some made by Springtech that were a 2" lift for pretty cheap.

http://shop.suspensionmax.com/Shop/...91/vpcsid/7184728/SFV/32526/prods_per_page/96

Has anyone used these before or know much about them? Quality? Fitment? etc.

The price is right and they are a full replacement spring like I want but i don't want to buy something that is crap. I don't want to spend a ton cause I'm planning on a Camburg or H&M kit in the future. I use my truck for camping alot and I used to have a 96' Impreza built for rally that I would take camping and tear up the dirt roads in so I'm gonna do some rallying with it when I'm out camping and I'm sure I will take it to the desert as its only an hour away. No big jumping or anything crazy, mostly fast dirt roads that will probably be less than smooth and playing out in the desert.

Also, is there any other suspenion companies that make and sell just a 2" lift spring for the 98+ 2wd's?

And i'm planning on using lift shackles in the rear with 2" lift ProComp ES3000 shocks front and rear with the lift springs in the front. I picked the ProComp shocks for the price as there ~38 each. Will these be good dampers for rough and fast driving? Or will it be worth it to save a little more for some Bilsteins?

Thanks in advance for any help!

Robbie

This is what it all will be going on. It currently has blown stock shocks, cheap spring block spacers in the front with a super stiff front ride, and the helper leaf removed from the rear (all done by PO). I've since spaced down the front shocks with washers to keep them from topping out and re-reversed the shackles to pick the rear up from slamming the bumpstops (much better!).

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Ok, first off...your truck looks awesome!

Now down to business:

Save up for the camburg 5.5 kit for your truck. Its fun to build a truck in steps, but its much smarter to just get the kit you want at the start. Also, run the procomp shocks while you save up for a race-style shock. If you are on a budget look into FOA shocks. They are super cheap when compared to fox, king, and saw shocks.

For the rear get deaver leaf springs, and a set of long shocks, either 2.5x14 or 2.5x16. When it comes to trucks, its all down to tuning your shocks.

Have fun with the build.
 
Ok, first off...your truck looks awesome!

Now down to business:

Save up for the camburg 5.5 kit for your truck. Its fun to build a truck in steps, but its much smarter to just get the kit you want at the start. Also, run the procomp shocks while you save up for a race-style shock. If you are on a budget look into FOA shocks. They are super cheap when compared to fox, king, and saw shocks.

For the rear get deaver leaf springs, and a set of long shocks, either 2.5x14 or 2.5x16. When it comes to trucks, its all down to tuning your shocks.

Have fun with the build.

im gunna have to agree, i spent a shit ton of money lifting my truck to just end up going to camburg and getting exactly what i wanted to begin with haha... as for suspension max coils and lifts their good quality. i ran their kit for awhile before going to camburg
 
Ok, first off...your truck looks awesome!

Now down to business:

Save up for the camburg 5.5 kit for your truck. Its fun to build a truck in steps, but its much smarter to just get the kit you want at the start. Also, run the procomp shocks while you save up for a race-style shock. If you are on a budget look into FOA shocks. They are super cheap when compared to fox, king, and saw shocks.

For the rear get deaver leaf springs, and a set of long shocks, either 2.5x14 or 2.5x16. When it comes to trucks, its all down to tuning your shocks.

Have fun with the build.

X2
 
Thanks for all the advice! I took out my spring spacers the other night and the driver side spring sags about 1.5" lower than the pass side. :sad: That spring must have been over compressed or something but needless to say it needs to be replaced. So I think I'm going to pick up the Springtech 2" coils with the ProComp shocks and Belltech shackles for the rear and run that for a while. It looks like the Camburg kit is just 2.5" coils with 3" spindles and UCAs, for the most part. For all the stuff above it will run me about 350 and all I'd need to do is add in some lift spindles and I can build UCAs. I built custom tubed parts for my subaru and my buddy built all the suspension for his drag Festiva so I think we can do UCAs on the ranger. Then upgrade the shocks to some Doetsch Baja-Ryders or Bilsteins and it will be pretty similar to the Camburg kit but much less expensive. I'm sure I'm missing a couple of things like limit straps, bumps, etc. but I think I'm going to try and piece it together and see if it comes out less than the Camburg kit, granted it won't have uni-balls or gnarly spindles but I'm gonna look into adding gussets onto whatever spindles I get to strengthen them up.

I'll document the build too so others can use it as a guide if it works out like I'm hoping it will.

What do you guys think about this idea?
 
fordboi415,

Did your Deaver's bolt up with the factory mounting brackets or did you need to relocate them and spread them out?

I think for the rear I'm going to go with the rearched Chevy springs and relocate my brackets.
 
Where did you get your exhaust pipe surround that is bolted to your glass? I would like to do something similar with mine.
 
All the exterior work was done by a local off-road shop called Marshall Motoart. It looks like it is just a piece of anodized aluminum that was probably cut on a water jet or CNC machine and then it has a bunch of rivets holding it in. It could have been a part they bought from somewhere else but there is a matching piece for the fuel door so it was probably made in house.
 
It appears that they do nice work, your truck looks clean.
 
Ya they do pretty good work. If you get close though you can see that the upper tube on the front bumper is bent twisted and the lower tubes are different lengths. Just the little things. It seems like since the PO was a buddy of the shop owner they kinda rushed it through all the work they did. The front fenders were way off when I bought it! Like a ½” gap at the front of the hood and closed gap at the rear. My buddy helped me straighten them out though. Much better looking.

Anyways, I ordered the Springtech 2” lift coil springs and Belltech shackles from suspensionmax.com today and I’m going to pickup some 2” lift ProComp ES3000 shocks from 4wheelparts after work today. I can’t wait to get some better suspension under this beast! I’ll take pics of the install with before and after shots when I get all the parts!
 
fordboi415,

Did your Deaver's bolt up with the factory mounting brackets or did you need to relocate them and spread them out?

I think for the rear I'm going to go with the rearched Chevy springs and relocate my brackets.

yes its meant to bolt right in with no mods, however you'll want to flip the rear hanger and shackle so it sits in the bump travel instead of being fully extended and sitting super high
 
Thanks for all the advice! I took out my spring spacers the other night and the driver side spring sags about 1.5" lower than the pass side. :sad: That spring must have been over compressed or something but needless to say it needs to be replaced. So I think I'm going to pick up the Springtech 2" coils with the ProComp shocks and Belltech shackles for the rear and run that for a while. It looks like the Camburg kit is just 2.5" coils with 3" spindles and UCAs, for the most part. For all the stuff above it will run me about 350 and all I'd need to do is add in some lift spindles and I can build UCAs. I built custom tubed parts for my subaru and my buddy built all the suspension for his drag Festiva so I think we can do UCAs on the ranger. Then upgrade the shocks to some Doetsch Baja-Ryders or Bilsteins and it will be pretty similar to the Camburg kit but much less expensive. I'm sure I'm missing a couple of things like limit straps, bumps, etc. but I think I'm going to try and piece it together and see if it comes out less than the Camburg kit, granted it won't have uni-balls or gnarly spindles but I'm gonna look into adding gussets onto whatever spindles I get to strengthen them up.

I'll document the build too so others can use it as a guide if it works out like I'm hoping it will.

What do you guys think about this idea?

i have a fabtech spindle, camburg coils from the 5.5 kit, bilstein 5100 shocks also from the 5.5 kit, and an upper control arm made with a uniball instead of the ball joint. it cost much less than the whole camburg 5.5 kit, but i have a wimpy fabtech spindle instead of a fully fabbed spindle. cost me less than $800 to piece together too. picked up some deavers for 300, shocks... well thats the expensive part. FOA saved me money, but still $400 new...
 
That truck looks great!!! You will like the Springtech coils. I run them with my Fabtech spindles. I got 5 inches of lift. I just used the add-a-leafs at the rear and a 1 inch lift block and I got plentey of room to run 33x12.5 KO's

Here is my 99 Ranger with the 5 inch lift kit before the bl I had plenty of room but next year I added the bl...just wanted it to sit higher:

ranger-lifted3.jpg



Here it is with the bl:

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Sorry, the first pic did not come up for some reason. I'll try it again..


Here it is with no bl

ranger-lifted3.jpg




I need to call that shop that worked on your truck. That is making me drool!!!!
 

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