Screaming Demon coil packs and offroad y pipe (no cats)? anyone got them on a SOHC

[Big Jim M]

Not true!

well the screeming demon coil with live wires made a major improve ment in my gas milage and mid to high torque. but i have 93 4.0 ohv. i gained 3-4 mpg city and same for highway so now im at 17 to 19 city and 18 to 21 high way depends how i drive, that extra passing power really helps when your behind sunday drivers. befor coil pack i was at 14 to 15 city and 17 to 19 highway. and idk what year you have and why you want to remove cat but its possiable to do so in mine cause my o2 sensors are before cats not after. i only have to cats but realy if you romoved one it will only help with exaust noise thats it. so over all just leave that cats and if you getting that good of mpg dont really bother with the coil pack and just to let you know you are one lucky sob to get that on a 4.0. i will be more that happy to trade you

Just to fill us all in on what tris wrote...
The demon coil didn't do ANYTHING that a new OEM coil wouldn't have done! All the demon coil is, is ADVERTISING for our rides.
All the GAINS that tris made after installing the demon would have been zackly the same gains if he had installed a OEM coil!!
It is tiring indeed to read all the hype about this coil and that coil. Coils all work the same, if one coil will improve the running of our engines then almost ANY coil would have caused the SAME gains!
OUR coils will run our engines up to six grand.. If more than six grand is being used then POSSIBLY a demon or other high-rev coil will improve running at those high rpm's.. But BELOW those rpm's all coils are the same.
If we read up on how coils work we will have a better understanding of WHY they can or cannot help in the daily use of our engines..
Big JIm

 

[basshead]

funny but in alberta canada not having your cats in place will not cause you to fail an out of province inspection.

awsome another albertain here!!

 

[feellnfroggy]

Why does everyone have to shoot down product just because THEY think they are hype? SO what if it is. He saw gains with it, someone else will see gains with stock and post that. This is why we have almost no vendors on TRS. Very few deals and tests are offered here because everyone thinks they have to share their wealth of knowledge.

OP Im glad you saw an improvement. I just did plugs and wires and coils are next and even though stocks wil work just fine, Im gonna save up for a set of demon's. In the long run when I do add more aftermarket mods, including a few things from supersixmotorsports, it'll be nice to have the extra spark. (even if its not needed)

 

[Big Jim M]

Ya gotta read up a bit!

Why does everyone have to shoot down product just because THEY think they are hype? SO what if it is. He saw gains with it, someone else will see gains with stock and post that. This is why we have almost no vendors on TRS. Very few deals and tests are offered here because everyone thinks they have to share their wealth of knowledge.

OP Im glad you saw an improvement. I just did plugs and wires and coils are next and even though stocks wil work just fine, Im gonna save up for a set of demon's. In the long run when I do add more aftermarket mods, including a few things from supersixmotorsports, it'll be nice to have the extra spark. (even if its not needed)

Ya see Froggy you WILL NOT have that "extra spark" you write about! Once you read up a little and actually UNDERSTAND how a coil, any coil, works you will KNOW all coils spark the same.. As long as you are at or under six thousand revolutions per minute you will never be able to use a racing coil..
So WHY SPEND the money? Learn about these silly products and you will have a better understanding of HOW an internal combustion engine actually works.
Big JIm

 

[multiranger]

Some people just seem to hate aftermarket parts... My automotive teacher was one of them.. If it wasn't stock you couldn't work on it in the shop class... Boy people learned a lot there... I quit and went to the body and paint side were we coulld express our rides without all the BS...

 

[Big Jim M]

You got iy wrong again multi!

Some people just seem to hate aftermarket parts... My automotive teacher was one of them.. If it wasn't stock you couldn't work on it in the shop class... Boy people learned a lot there... I quit and went to the body and paint side were we coulld express our rides without all the BS...

Some folks KNOW what aftermarket parts are FOR!
Some folks have nothing against using aftermarket parts when they are needed to make the ride run BETTER!
Some folks see no reason to use aftermarket parts that MAY go away much faster then stock, when stock will do the same thing the aftermarket ones will do... AND the stock parts will most likely do it for a much longer time.
Big Jim

 

[02 ranger]

Some folks KNOW what aftermarket parts are FOR!
Some folks have nothing against using aftermarket parts when they are needed to make the ride run BETTER!
Some folks see no reason to use aftermarket parts that MAY go away much faster then stock, when stock will do the same thing the aftermarket ones will do... AND the stock parts will most likely do it for a much longer time.
Big Jim

Ok Big Jim, not to be disrespectful but holy crap are you one of those bastards that shoots down people just because they want to do some thing to their trucks? Key work their is that its THEIR trucks, yes your offering an opinion,a very ignorant one at that, but every time i see you post something like this i just want to slap the shit out ya. That guy that gained mpg and power from this is clear evidence that it worked, yet you still say it dont. Why? I still wonder because he offered clear statements on what he gained, where he gained it, and the outcome of the install. Just goes to show how ignorants you are.
Me, i am not a gas person but hell i love my ranger. Yeah it is under-powered but it will take you anywhere. Im a diesel person and a certified diesel tech at that. My super duty is tuned up using intake, tuner, and exhaust.. YES AFTERMARKET PARTS! What did i gain? Depending on the tune it can vary anywhere from stock hp levels to up to a 350 hp tune. I run a 275 hp as a daily driver and to haul loads smaller than 10k. Where did i gain this power at? Through out the power band but mostly from 1000 to 2500 rpms. Outcome? A rig that weights 8k, can run 12s all day long at the track, has more than 500 hp and 1100 ft/lbs torque, and gets me 16+ mpg. How? USING AFTERMARKET PARTS. Yes, this is not the same as a damn ranger but it follows the same basic principles. more air, a better tune, and a free flowing exhaust system and you will gain numbers somewhere.
Im assuming that more spark will help burn up fuel that isnt completely burnt which will result in a more efficient engine. I am not a genius at gassers but they follow the same principles as a diesel.
I apologize if i am being rude but you sir have pushed the limits in my book. And it dont help that i got an anger issues..

 

[Big Jim M]

Ok Big Jim, not to be disrespectful but holy crap are you one of those bastards that shoots down people just because they want to do some thing to their trucks? Key work their is that its THEIR trucks, yes your offering an opinion,a very ignorant one at that, but every time i see you post something like this i just want to slap the shit out ya. That guy that gained mpg and power from this is clear evidence that it worked, yet you still say it dont. Why? I still wonder because he offered clear statements on what he gained, where he gained it, and the outcome of the install. Just goes to show how ignorants you are.
Me, i am not a gas person but hell i love my ranger. Yeah it is under-powered but it will take you anywhere. Im a diesel person and a certified diesel tech at that. My super duty is tuned up using intake, tuner, and exhaust.. YES AFTERMARKET PARTS! What did i gain? Depending on the tune it can vary anywhere from stock hp levels to up to a 350 hp tune. I run a 275 hp as a daily driver and to haul loads smaller than 10k. Where did i gain this power at? Through out the power band but mostly from 1000 to 2500 rpms. Outcome? A rig that weights 8k, can run 12s all day long at the track, has more than 500 hp and 1100 ft/lbs torque, and gets me 16+ mpg. How? USING AFTERMARKET PARTS. Yes, this is not the same as a damn ranger but it follows the same basic principles. more air, a better tune, and a free flowing exhaust system and you will gain numbers somewhere.
Im assuming that more spark will help burn up fuel that isnt completely burnt which will result in a more efficient engine. I am not a genius at gassers but they follow the same principles as a diesel.
I apologize if i am being rude but you sir have pushed the limits in my book. And it dont help that i got an anger issues..

The KEY to your whole post is: "Im assuming that more spark will help burn up fuel that isnt completely burnt which will result in a more efficient engine."

Remember how to spell ASSUMING! In assuming this you are completely WRONG if you think for ONE minute that ANY coil will burn up more fuel than ANY other!
THAT, my good fellow, was the point that I have been making alll along! Once the spark occurs it does the zact same thing ANY OTHER spark would have done! The spark lights the fire... when lit it burns the same every time!
What is it about my point that is so hard for some folks to understand?
It isn't the SPARK that spins the engine... it's the FIRE that spins the engine. Once the fire starts any spark occuring after that is in already burnt fuel. So there is no advantage of a LONGER spark.
As far as quality of spark... ANY small yellow spark will light the fire in the zact same time frame as a long blue spark will!

Yeah I know you are tired of reading my posts. What I try to do is to EDUCATE guys as to what they THINK they are doing and what actually is happening!
Sure it is YOUR ride! And SURE you can do anything to it that you want to.. What I try to do is to tell you that you need to KNOW what the outcome is before you make the decesion to make certain modifications to the thing.

A prime example is the guys that BELIEVE their Fords are starving for air. Them guys spend hundreds of $$$ on a CAI thinking they are doing good things for their engine..
Another example is the guys that take a good running factory coil and change it out for a fancy yellow racing coil...thinking they are doing something good to their engine. All the while not having a clue as to what a coil does.

Then there are the guys that have a poorly running vehicle and they put that same CAI and that yellow coil and maybe even some of them four-pronged spark pulgs... and it runs better! So right away they come here and brag on how good them yellow coils are... when all along a factory tune would have run just as good or even BETTER in most cases.
If you are tired of me attempting to tell you the TRUTH just don't read my posts.
Big JIm

 

[02 ranger]

The KEY to your whole post is: "Im assuming that more spark will help burn up fuel that isnt completely burnt which will result in a more efficient engine."

Remember how to spell ASSUMING! In assuming this you are completely WRONG if you think for ONE minute that ANY coil will burn up more fuel than ANY other!
THAT, my good fellow, was the point that I have been making alll along! Once the spark occurs it does the zact same thing ANY OTHER spark would have done! The spark lights the fire... when lit it burns the same every time!
What is it about my point that is so hard for some folks to understand?
It isn't the SPARK that spins the engine... it's the FIRE that spins the engine. Once the fire starts any spark occuring after that is in already burnt fuel. So there is no advantage of a LONGER spark.
As far as quality of spark... ANY small yellow spark will light the fire in the zact same time frame as a long blue spark will!

Yeah I know you are tired of reading my posts. What I try to do is to EDUCATE guys as to what they THINK they are doing and what actually is happening!
Sure it is YOUR ride! And SURE you can do anything to it that you want to.. What I try to do is to tell you that you need to KNOW what the outcome is before you make the decesion to make certain modifications to the thing.

A prime example is the guys that BELIEVE their Fords are starving for air. Them guys spend hundreds of $$$ on a CAI thinking they are doing good things for their engine..
Another example is the guys that take a good running factory coil and change it out for a fancy yellow racing coil...thinking they are doing something good to their engine. All the while not having a clue as to what a coil does.

Then there are the guys that have a poorly running vehicle and they put that same CAI and that yellow coil and maybe even some of them four-pronged spark pulgs... and it runs better! So right away they come here and brag on how good them yellow coils are... when all along a factory tune would have run just as good or even BETTER in most cases.
If you are tired of me attempting to tell you the TRUTH just don't read my posts.
Big JIm

I aint gonna argue about the coils cause idk anything about a gasser but how come people get gains as soon as they put a intake on it? I have a buddy who owns dr. performance and he lets people go on his dyno for a little charge and most of them do it to see if their mods help them at all. About 4 times a week some guys show up in little rangers and dyno before and after simple mods. What do they get? Increase in hp and torque. Where? After 3000 rpms is wheres its most notable. What you always say is that if you put an intake on a ranger you will see no gains at all and you are retarted for doing so. Well these people that dyno out their rangers see improvements. I see them around town sometimes and they tell me they love it, they gain mpg's. THIS IS PROVEN WITH A DYNO. No matter what you tell me all i know is that i have seen people with rangers see improvements. Have you ever dyno'd a ranger before and after simple mods?
I think we should stop being closed minded and open our head into reality.

 

[Big Jim M]

Your buddy that owns the performance shop is spoofing you! Remember he makes his living SELLING that junk!
Guys that are unknowlegable enough to buy that junk don't get a dyno BEFORE installing it. If they did they'd be on here telling it like it is..
The main thing about a CAI is that the engine itself isn't starving for air in the first place! The stock intake gives moire air that the engine can take.. So when installing a CAI there can only be a gain in NOISE not air. Many guys unknowingly confuse NOISE with power.
Again we are thinking about how inept the ford engineers were when designing our rides. We are thinking some guy in his backyard could outthink them and invent something painted a bright color that could outdo the factory stuff. In almost all cases the aftermarket CAI costs more to run than the factory one..
Big JIm

 

[modelageek]

i'm thinking of purchasing a Screaming demon coil pack, i was wondering if anyone has tried them and what did they think of them? also interested in fabricating an off road y pipe for my truck as well, but i'm worried that it will be over the top loud and i'll get pulled over and ticketed. and will deleting my cats help with gas mileage?, i average about 21-22MPG city and 24-25MPG highway, i think it could get alittle better, but sometimes i like to push it to the 6000rpm limiter

 

[02 ranger]

Your buddy that owns the performance shop is spoofing you! Remember he makes his living SELLING that junk!
Guys that are unknowlegable enough to buy that junk don't get a dyno BEFORE installing it. If they did they'd be on here telling it like it is..
The main thing about a CAI is that the engine itself isn't starving for air in the first place! The stock intake gives moire air that the engine can take.. So when installing a CAI there can only be a gain in NOISE not air. Many guys unknowingly confuse NOISE with power.
Again we are thinking about how inept the ford engineers were when designing our rides. We are thinking some guy in his backyard could outthink them and invent something painted a bright color that could outdo the factory stuff. In almost all cases the aftermarket CAI costs more to run than the factory one..
Big JIm

How is he spoofing me if i look at the dyno results not him? And yeah that "junk" deffiantly doesnt work. It only turned him from the average joe to owning multiple shops, trucks and pull trucks. Damn your one ignorant bastard. I just told u that each ranger owner that brought in their trucks on the dyno gained on average 8-10 hp at the wheels. Usually a cai intake takes away RESTRICTION by replacing the stock one with a single, straight piece of pipe and some even coat theirs in a layer to protect it from heat. Then the filter is replaced with one that can flow more air. All this less restriction and heat turns out number, not very much but its their. What you are saying about cai intakes is that no matter what and that their dumbasses for even trying. You arent educating people, your filling their heads with bs.
You are just too dumb to listen to other people. MODS WORK! And if my friends tuners wouldnt work then why does he take a bone stock truck that runs 15s, and only has 300hp to a truck that runs 13's all day and has more than 500 hp? Hmm that dyno sure is screwed and apparently the track is too. Darn