Farm and Garden

[racsan]

My newest batch of chickens has started laying, 3 out of the 6 birds started last friday. The other birds have only been managing to lay a egg or two a day. sometimes none at all. and theres 15 of them. Im hoping when it warms up they get back to where they should be. A year ago I was averaging 10 a day. wasn’t so bitter cold last winter either.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

And I thought when you heard “february beans” during the farm report at noon in the radio it was about the futures market. lol
aint the 404 great? Id love to put that engine in a 3/4 ton truck, we have a 6600 too.

It does good and its fun to listen to the governer open up. Supposed to be a lot better than the earlier machines with the 329.

Dad put one out of a 7700 Turbo in a 4020, that thing is pretty spunky... its basically a 4430 engine with a different pump.

 

[bobbywalter]

i love the 4.5 liter 4 pots....wet sleeve. pretty easy to work on.

had them on some pumps and screw compressors. the 404 is a 6 pot of the same type isnt it?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

i love the 4.5 liter 4 pots....wet sleeve. pretty easy to work on.

had them on some pumps and screw compressors. the 404 is a 6 pot of the same type isnt it?

Its a 6, different family though. They are not a super flashy engine or whatever. Pretty reliable/tough but a bit cold blooded. Tractors ran warm and thirsty trying to keep with a red one... but the cabs were so much nicer who cares if it took a little longer.

IIRC the combine is a '78 and it is about the last of the 404's. The 6620/7720 combines and 40 series tractors got the 466 which was a totally different animal. Much better cold starting but of course they had to handicap themselves by giving it a gear drive water pump that lets you know you need a water pump by removing main bearings/oil pressure.

The older 404's like what the 4020 and previous gen combines used (I think the 105 used them) is totally different aside from bellhousing pattern. On those they did make a 4cyl variant for smaller tractors that the 4.5L replaced.

 

[ford4wd08]

Its a 6, different family though. They are not a super flashy engine or whatever. Pretty reliable/tough but a bit cold blooded. Tractors ran warm and thirsty trying to keep with a red one... but the cabs were so much nicer who cares if it took a little longer.

IIRC the combine is a '78 and it is about the last of the 404's. The 6620/7720 combines and 40 series tractors got the 466 which was a totally different animal. Much better cold starting but of course they had to handicap themselves by giving it a gear drive water pump that lets you know you need a water pump by removing main bearings/oil pressure.

The older 404's like what the 4020 and previous gen combines used (I think the 105 used them) is totally different aside from bellhousing pattern. On those they did make a 4cyl variant for smaller tractors that the 4.5L replaced.

Wonder how many 404's Deere made? The 4020 alone gives them a big boost in numbers.

They are cold blooded, especially in the 30 series. They usually had less than ideal compression as well. A lot of rebuild kits out there to help bump it up.

I would like to have a 4230 one day, my Grandad bought a 4 post one new in 1976. I still sort of know where it is or at least who I could call to tell me where it wound up.

Have a small SGB now in a utility but would love a Waterloo tractor as well.

 

[ford4wd08]

How about some cattle pictures? Started my small herd after we bought our place in 2023. Took me until 2024 to get the fences in good order in addition to adding ball waterers.

Working on our first calf crop. Have 4 on the ground now, waiting on one more for our small cow calf operation.

Picture is from a couple of weeks back.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Wonder how many 404's Deere made? The 4020 alone gives them a big boost in numbers.

They are cold blooded, especially in the 30 series. They usually had less than ideal compression as well. A lot of rebuild kits out there to help bump it up.

I would like to have a 4230 one day, my Grandad bought a 4 post one new in 1976. I still sort of know where it is or at least who I could call to tell me where it wound up.

Have a small SGB now in a utility but would love a Waterloo tractor as well.

4020 is a different 404. Its like a pushrod 5.0 vs a Coyote but if they shared a bolt pattern. The later 404 fits in a 4020 but they are tight, the block is a little longer.

My uncle actually hauled my beans in with his 4430 lol.

I would like something bigger, I'd be happy with a gas D-19 actually.

 

[ford4wd08]

4020 is a different 404. Its like a pushrod 5.0 vs a Coyote but if they shared a bolt pattern. The later 404 fits in a 4020 but they are tight, the block is a little longer.

My uncle actually hauled my beans in with his 4430 lol.

I would like something bigger, I'd be happy with a gas D-19 actually.

I was always under the impression they were the same?

I know they made some updates to it, but thought the majority of the 404 was the same from the 20 series through the end of the use in the 40 series.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I was always under the impression they were the same?

I know they made some updates to it, but thought the majority of the 404 was the same from the 20 series through the end of the use in the 40 series.

Same bore/stroke and mounting points. I suppose could be considered an evolution but they changed A LOT.

The 4020 had the exhaust ports siamesed together, the 30 series has individual ports. Probably changed the valves as well. Much different injectors/fuel systems. The 30 series has the injection pump ran off the timing gears up front (tractors have an inline pump as well), the 4020 runs off the camshaft and is a small rotary pump about 2/3's the way back and sits vertically. Oil cooler is much different and you get into like the 4630 they have a aftercooler as well.

From a component interchangeability standpoint they are very different.

Compared to the 4010 which is only a sleeve/piston kit away from having a 404 as well...

 

[scotts90ranger]

The tractor my brother just got is a 4130 so I'm somewhat recently familiar with how the 404 in it looked, the injector pump was a rotary style with the lines coming out at goofy angles not an inline like I'm used to seeing on his Ford I6 tractors... but who knows if they hadn't put a combine engine in or something. Speaking of we need to get the spare 7700 combine he got last year, they lost the drag link between the steering tires so we have to borrow the one from the other...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The tractor my brother just got is a 4130 so I'm somewhat recently familiar with how the 404 in it looked, the injector pump was a rotary style with the lines coming out at goofy angles not an inline like I'm used to seeing on his Ford I6 tractors... but who knows if they hadn't put a combine engine in or something. Speaking of we need to get the spare 7700 combine he got last year, they lost the drag link between the steering tires so we have to borrow the one from the other...

4130?

This day in age who knows what has been swapped around.

Dad still has the rotory pump on his combine 404 in his 4020, he doesn't like how the inlines rev way up right when they cold start so he never went out of his way to swap the pump. They have a spicier "tune" than a combine.

He has enough umph to splatter his transmission if he could put it to the ground as it is anyway lol. He mainly just runs a loader with it. We did put it on the chisel once, it needs more lead it in its @$$.