project family wheeler. chop top 1 ton explorer.

[Kage]

Wow, this turned into a Front/Rear shackle debate in a hurry, so I’m not going to touch that ​

　
Slo-vo, What are you going to be doing for steering? When I pushed my front end forward 3", the Drag link/Tie Rod gets really damn close to each other, and I don’t think you can push it much father forward than that without either going full hydro, or moving the box forward. This is with the High steer setup that puts everything in front of the axle, if you do a Helicopter type setup (Tie Rod behind the axle) life should be good.​

Just an FYI, and yes, I’ll get those leaf measurements for you today ​

 

[86 slo-vo]

Wow, this turned into a Front/Rear shackle debate in a hurry, so I’m not going to touch that ​

　
Slo-vo, What are you going to be doing for steering? When I pushed my front end forward 3", the Drag link/Tie Rod gets really damn close to each other, and I don’t think you can push it much father forward than that without either going full hydro, or moving the box forward. This is with the High steer setup that puts everything in front of the axle, if you do a Helicopter type setup (Tie Rod behind the axle) life should be good.​

Just an FYI, and yes, I’ll get those leaf measurements for you today ​

im going to have to move the box, they dont make the helicopter arms for these knuckles so im stuck with what i have.

thanks, i appreciate it.

 

[86 slo-vo]

Too late to go back now, just cut 4 inches a side out of the core support.

 

[Boggin]

Too late to go back now, just cut 4 inches a side out of the core support.

 

[4.0B2]

pics???

 

[86 slo-vo]

trying, photobucket is sucking again.

 

[Combs Customs]

i got txt pics. He got the hood chopped too. My photobucket is broked too

 

[Kage]

I got those measurments for you on the wagoneer leafs:

All measurments are approximate...

A = 46.5" (Distance Eye to eye with the trucks weight on them)
b = ~1.5" (Distance between the top of the leaf, to the Eye to Eye centerline).
C = 23.25" (Rear eye to pin, the pin is pretty much dead center of the leaf pack).

These leafs are sitting nearly flat, there is a slight arch to them still and I don't really expect them to flatten out any more than what they are currently.

For grins, I checked the stock 7 leaf pack, and those too have the pin in the center.

There is also some good information in this thread (Link to P4x4).

Hope that helped.

 

[86 slo-vo]

I got those measurments for you on the wagoneer leafs:

All measurments are approximate...

A = 46.5" (Distance Eye to eye with the trucks weight on them)
b = ~1.5" (Distance between the top of the leaf, to the Eye to Eye centerline).
C = 23.25" (Rear eye to pin, the pin is pretty much dead center of the leaf pack).

These leafs are sitting nearly flat, there is a slight arch to them still and I don't really expect them to flatten out any more than what they are currently.

For grins, I checked the stock 7 leaf pack, and those too have the pin in the center.

There is also some good information in this thread (Link to P4x4).

Hope that helped.

thanks, that knocks out the waggies for me. i need something around 22" from the pin to front eye so i can pull my hangers back and up where they dont hang out so much.

looks like its the yota leafs then....now to find a set

thanks again.

 

[wahlstrom1]

Here ya go...

 

[Kage]

...looks like its the yota leafs then....now to find a set

thanks again.

No problem. You've probably looked at the Yota's more than I have, but will they be able to hold up enough weight? Those yota's tend to be faril light (4k or less), so I'd worry about flattening out those leafs.

It may be a non issue, but probably something you want to make sure of before slapping down the cash on a set.

 

[86 slo-vo]

Here ya go...

thanks, i had was just scrolling over that...had it bookmarked

No problem. You've probably looked at the Yota's more than I have, but will they be able to hold up enough weight? Those yota's tend to be faril light (4k or less), so I'd worry about flattening out those leafs.

It may be a non issue, but probably something you want to make sure of before slapping down the cash on a set.

im not sure, nmb2 seems to run them with some success. if i have to im not against running a bastard pack to make it work.

from looking at the link you posted the 44044's are the perfect dimensions but its hard to shell out that much coin for some.

Rancho 44044: 2.5in lift 76-92Wagoneer 7 leafs,
About 8in lift if used on an XJ front SOA.
76-92 Wagoneer Rancho 44044 47.00 22.9" 20.8" 2.50" SUA
300#sq/in
Free Arch: 8.45" @ pin
1.68in leaf pack thickness, 10.13in from pad to eye height.
Eye to eye (not following the spring): 43.64
Eye to eye (following arch): about 48in
2.5in of lift over stock YJ leafs.

 

[Kage]

Have you talked to the folks that re-arched your 64" springs? Can they build you a custom pack (something like the 44044's) for less money?

 

[86 slo-vo]

I'm not sure, I guess it could be worth a try since they were so cheap on the re-arch. May have to swing by there this week.

 

[86 slo-vo]

Well looks like photobucket is playing their usual shit, no pics tonight. Maybe they will pull their heads out of their asses and get something that works.

Tired of paying them for something and only half the time working... Maybe they went into business with ballistic probably only a few people know what I'm talking about.