Will there be a Replacement for the Ranger

[kryptonitecb]

Getting the extra power and mileage makes up for the cost in diesel. On one end my diesel VW gets 40 mpg at 500 miles per tank while a friend with a cummins gets 25 mpg with his diesel. The equivalent gas trucks get less than 15 mpg with less power. In my mind diesel is always worth the price for what you get.

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[Ranger-rick]

I completely agree with the advantage in diesel over gas in a 3/4 ton truck because I would never buy a 3/4 ton or bigger truck without a diesel. However, diesels also have oil changes that cost three times as much as a gas engine and the maintenance costs are nearly double. I realize the advantage to having a diesel but the nearly doubled increase in maintenance costs take away any slight increase in you receive in fuel economy. Along with the obvious price of a gallon of diesel being 20-40 cents a gallon more than gas.

If I was in the market for a new 3/4 ton then I would buy a diesel. But it wouldn't be for any savings in gas because there wouldn't be any at all. I would buy it for the increase in performance, because at best you would equal the price of a gasoline truck but 9 times out of 10 it is more expensive to own a diesel when you factor in everything about driving a diesel compared to a gasoline truck of the same options. Really the only advantage to owning a diesel is the obvious increase in performance over a gasoline truck. And thats also not factoring in how much more expensive a diesel truck is to buy compared to a gasoline truck, which is thousands of dollars more than a gas truck, 6 grand can buy A LOT of gas.

If we are talking small diesel cars like old VW diesels that get 40+ MPG then that does not apply to those because there is an advantage to those over comparable gasoline cars of the same model years.

 

[straycat]

Getting the extra power and mileage makes up for the cost in diesel. On one end my diesel VW gets 40 mpg at 500 miles per tank while a friend with a cummins gets 25 mpg with his diesel. The equivalent gas trucks get less than 15 mpg with less power. In my mind diesel is always worth the price for what you get.

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My wife’s Toyota Corolla gets over 40 mpg on the highway. 87 octane there. My Rouge gets 36 on the highway with a roof rack and cargo basket. 87 octane there. My 99 Ranger with 33’s and a roof rack and cargo basket gets 24 on the highway. 87 octane there. No need for a diesel for us. Now start towing stuff with a small diesel car or truck and watch the gas mileage drop like a rock. A bigger truck with a diesel will have a much better advantage in this case.

 

[kryptonitecb]

My wife’s Toyota Corolla gets over 40 mpg on the highway. 87 octane there. My Rouge gets 36 on the highway with a roof rack and cargo basket. 87 octane there. My 99 Ranger with 33’s and a roof rack and cargo basket gets 24 on the highway. 87 octane there. No need for a diesel for us. Now start towing stuff with a small diesel car or truck and watch the gas mileage drop like a rock. A bigger truck with a diesel will have a much better advantage in this case.

Compare the hp/tq values to those vehicles versus the vw diesel. That's the difference you get with diesel to gas.

Maintenance is about the same also. Diesels have less but cost more, gas has more but costs less. Oil changes cost more cause they hold more, if you're lazy and take it to jiffy lube it is expensive.

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[jrpdash9]

Getting the extra power and mileage makes up for the cost in diesel. On one end my diesel VW gets 40 mpg at 500 miles per tank while a friend with a cummins gets 25 mpg with his diesel. The equivalent gas trucks get less than 15 mpg with less power. In my mind diesel is always worth the price for what you get.

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The 05 crew cab 3500 dodge We had got roughly 22 highway. Loved it. Great mpg and power.

Now the diesel swap I have in my ranger is a old Mercedes 5 cylinder. When it was still in the car it got like 35mpg . It was fantastic. I can't wait to see what I will be getting on the ranger.

 

[kryptonitecb]

The 05 crew cab 3500 dodge We had got roughly 22 highway. Loved it. Great mpg and power.

Now the diesel swap I have in my ranger is a old Mercedes 5 cylinder. When it was still in the car it got like 35mpg . It was fantastic. I can't wait to see what I will be getting on the ranger.

Can't wait to see a build thread on it!

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[jrpdash9]

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1380192#post1380192


It's been while in the making. But it's finally in one piece

 

[347 Ranger]

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It's been while in the making. But it's finally in one piece

I was hoping to stick with a ford but I guess I will be forced to be like NAPA and Chieftain and Buy a Tacoma! I need a truck but I don't need a 3 ton, driving my car is ok but I have no intention of putting garbage in my car!

Ford F%^ed up This time!

 

[jrpdash9]

I was hoping to stick with a ford but I guess I will be forced to be like NAPA and Chieftain and Buy a Tacoma! I need a truck but I don't need a 3 ton, driving my car is ok but I have no intention of putting garbage in my car!

Ford F%^ed up This time!

Agreed, I don't mind Toyota. They are decent truck. But the ranger was just the classic small truck.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I was out testing new trucks and all the trucks I tested are a lot to heavy or are real undesirable, I tested a new F150 4door and the truck was 6200 pounds. This is almost twice the weight of my old Ranger. The bells and whistles are nice but I don't need a 3 ton truck ! Is there any hope Of a new Ranger replacement!

I am curious how a brand new truck weighs 1k lbs more than my 5.4 4x4 supercab shortbox F-150. Real world, hitch, full tank of gas, grille guard, dual exhaust, a toolbox and a back seat full of crap it tipped the local co-op's scale at 5,500 even.

They're forced to now because the ranger fleets are gone. I think my local autozone has a couple rangers still, but when those die I wonder what they'll get. The versa actually makes sense, I mean unless you have to deliver an engine LOL. I never understood why some companies had rangers rather than cars. Most times they're delivering or doing such small work that the truck itself is never used for hauling or towing LOL, its just used as a delivery vehicle for small parts, or a runner/courier vehicle.

I understand what you are saying, sometimes a truck is not exactly the greatest thing for deliveries, maybe they got better deals on a fleet of rangers than they would have on a fleet of cars? I don't know I've never been involved in fleet purchases so I couldn't say, but maybe its possible.

I have wondered that, the best I have been able to come up with is bags of floor dry. There ALWAYS has to be one that breaks open...

Keep in mind car companies make their $$ on options, not much money in stripped down trucks.

I'm with U kryptonitecb, I want a little truck with a diesel engine that gets 30-40+ MPG. VW did it yrs ago. Problem is nowadays the diesel is soooo strapped with emissions crap that they don't return the mpg they used to and they are expensive as hell to build to meet emissions standards. The rest of the world have them, don't see why we in the US can't.

So goes the ways of ignorant Americans and diesel engines. Diesels actually are more efficient and less pollutant when running correctly. Problem is every hick that adds a tuner and goes around "rolling coal" makes them look bad. I look forward to the day when hopefully the american people realize this.

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I fully agree with ridgerunner. Modern diesels are being forced into something they were not meant to be. IMO diesels (in trucks) peaked for power/economy in the early to mid 00's.

They are becoming as effecient as a hot water toilet with all the expensive do-dad's and thingamajiggers to keep the treehuggers happy.

I hate the rolling coal hicks as much as most but it is getting rediculous. Like the 6.4 that struggled to get much better mileage than the V-10... which in the mid teens was hardly impressive in its own right. With some work they can be a totally different engine that still doesn't smoke.

If Ford keeps developing their direct injected boosted gas engines things could get interesting in the diesel world. There were rumors going around about a Ecoboost 6.2 becoming a worthy second choice for those that don't want to pay the ever increasing price for a diesel.