The walmart

[TheBeast]

Making money at the cost of morals and others lives isn't business, it's corruption.

 

[BlackBII]

Making money at the cost of morals and others lives isn't business, it's corruption.

No, it's business.

No company has amounted the amount of revenue that WalMart has by being moral and nice to everyone. It's the name of the game, survival of the fittest, whatever you wanna call it.

How do you think the U.S. Government became the richest most powerful BUSINESS in the world? By screwing everyone else over and taking it for themselves. Take a look at history, that's just how it goes. Romans, Greeks, Chinese, Mongols......etc

There are certain things you must do to survive. As a Business, Government, Person...all the same rules apply

 

[Jason]

I deplore walmart. I believe that they are partially responsible for the economic downturn that we are in. How many things in Walmart are made in N.A? Almost NIL.

It's the one store where I refuse to shop. My own personal boycott. And I don't hesitate to let friends/family know my feelings.

As for unions. I believe they have their place. I've worked for unionized companies, and non-unionized companies. The unionized company was a far more satisfying place to work. Better take-home pay, better benefits, etc.

However, if taken too far unions can destroy their work place. Case in point: Look at the British manufacturing industry. Destroyed by unions.

A more recent example: The UAW. They are a MAJOR reason the D3 are in trouble right now. They need to cut costs, and the unions won't give ground. So what happens? Instead of NOT getting a pay rise, people get laid off. How does that make any sense?

Like I said, Unions have their purposes, but if they get too powerful, they just become self destructive. Something about biting the hand that feeds.

You blame Walmart for supplying the goods that people want to buy? They get cheap stuff because the public wants cheap stuff. Blame the consumer.

WalMart simply filled a need that existed.

 

[STingray1300]

I'm sorry if this has already been mentioned (because I don't have time right now to read all the posts), but:

#1 - Walmart is a heinous, despicable entity that is partly responsible for the economy's current condition. Want some really scary insight? Watch the documentary "The High Cost of Low Prices" some time. That'll cause you to lose your taste for WM (if you have a conscience that is)

#2 - Unions. I've been a union member for 24 years now. I think I read a post where a lad was happy making $70 after taxes??? You're obviously not supporting a family (and if you ARE, you have my deepest sympathies and admiration!). I make $1400/wk ($1000 after taxes). I have a pension. I have medical coverage. I get my weekends off. I get "normal" working hours. I can get laid off any time, but I also have protection from unscrupulous bosses/companies who would take advantage of a sagging economy by threatening my job if I didn't do ANYthing they wanted me to do. California is an expensive place to live (SF Bay Area), but where is it not?

I totally agree though, that Unions have been headed by individuals who are less than genuine, and it serves to add momentum to others' who want THEIR piece of the pie as well (we call it "greed"). I'm no lover of unions, but it has served to educate me as to just how bad things would be for us workers if they did not exist. Could things use revamping? Sure! But there are other issues in society that contribute to the moral decay, that are much more systemic in nature, and would have to be fixed first before any "symptoms" could be dealt with successfully. The UAW is just *1* union that is not "getting real". There HAVE to be concessions, on all sides, for things to moderate. Standing one's ground in such a staunch way is counter productive.

So, if you like your weekends, your 40-hour work week, and most of the labor protection laws on the books in ALL states (union and non-union) thank a union. They were the ones that fought for them, with or without yours and my help.

 

[Jason]

I don't like walmart as a company. They are a brute in the corporate world that is guilty of tax evasion and bad business practices. As horrible and de-americanizing they are, they give clothes and food to people who normally don't have it. Essentially giving a venue of opportunity to someone with nothing. I'm not a hippie, I'm just an extremely aware redneck who hates businesses with the sleight of hand practices.

So, you don't like any successful business outside of little mom and pop places? They all do it. It's necessary to survive once you get big. you learn to use tax laws to your advantage and undercut competition to keep the customers coming to you.

 

[warrior24]

I do not like the idea of money from my pay check getting garnished to pay some Union executive's salary. Thank the Lord I live in Arizona, and do not have to be in the United food and Grocers Union. I am thankful I have a job working for Safeway. I do not see why workers can not just strike if they are unhappy with their wages or working conditions. Why must there be a Union to support a strike?

 

[Ozwynn]

my brother just got a job at Wal-mart part time, about 25 hours a week. he get $11.50 an hour to stock shelves and unload trucks, no need for medical insurance because his wife is a Nurse, who BTW works for the non-union hospital because the medical benefits are better...........

My Dad work for Meijers doing the same thing. Its a union job, he get $9.40 an hour to do the same job as my brother and he only get 19 hours a week.

When I worked for LaidLaw when we got laid off for the summer Laid law set us up for un-employment..... the union bus drivers that worked directly for the school district only got $2 more an hour, had to pay dues, and no un-employment for the summer.

The only time I have ever had anything repossessed was when I got laid off from my union job...... where was the union when my job got axed?

All the union plants around here were the first to fail......

 

[Ozwynn]

I do not like the idea of money from my pay check getting garnished to pay some Union executive's salary. Thank the Lord I live in Arizona, and do not have to be in the United food and Grocers Union. I am thankful I have a job working for Safeway. I do not see why workers can not just strike if they are unhappy with their wages or working conditions. Why must there be a Union to support a strike?

in a non union shop they can fire you for striking.

In a union shop they have to let you come back to work after your temper tantrum.

 

[NMB2]

ive worked for a union 3 times. All 3 times it was the most crooked, greedy kind of people running it. I am very against the general union business practice that I have personaly experienced, and know many others that have.

Wal-mart: although I feel where alot of people are coming from and I somewhat agree, maybe you should get this mad at your beloved people in washington that do much worse "business practices". the one good thing I will say about walmart through all the bad. At least they create jobs and capital. If you dont like it, dont work there, dont shop there.

 

[NMB2]

In a union shop they have to let you come back to work after your temper tantrum.

well put. I think thats signature worthy.

 

[Jason]

unions exist to protect the unions income. Sometimes, they protect workers in the process. Until the time comes the company can't financially bear it anymore, and all those workers are out of jobs. Then they CDL schools get to screw them.

 

[Ozwynn]

unions exist to protect the unions income. Sometimes, they protect workers in the process. Until the time comes the company can't financially bear it anymore, and all those workers are out of jobs. Then they CDL schools get to screw them.

then after that the trucking companies get to screw you.... because of the CDL mills drivers are a dime a dozen...... union or not........

where can I sign up to pay $9000 for 16 days of CDL instruction so I can work for a company that will pay me 27 cents per mile and let me sit 4 or 5 days at a time while I am waiting on a load ...............

 

[Jason]

then after that the trucking companies get to screw you.... because of the CDL mills drivers are a dime a dozen...... union or not........

where can I sign up to pay $9000 for 16 days of CDL instruction so I can work for a company that will pay me 27 cents per mile and let me sit 4 or 5 days at a time while I am waiting on a load ...............

www.ntts.edu LOL

They claim a ton of victims around here.

 

[Ozwynn]

we got PDI or PDC or PDL or whatever they are called down the road........ they suck too. 60 miles away is one of CR England's driving schools ....... they really suck

 

[351Mazda]

I'm sorry if this has already been mentioned (because I don't have time right now to read all the posts), but:

#1 - Walmart is a heinous, despicable entity that is partly responsible for the economy's current condition. Want some really scary insight? Watch the documentary "The High Cost of Low Prices" some time. That'll cause you to lose your taste for WM (if you have a conscience that is)

#2 - Unions. I've been a union member for 24 years now. I think I read a post where a lad was happy making $70 after taxes??? You're obviously not supporting a family (and if you ARE, you have my deepest sympathies and admiration!). I make $1400/wk ($1000 after taxes). I have a pension. I have medical coverage. I get my weekends off. I get "normal" working hours. I can get laid off any time, but I also have protection from unscrupulous bosses/companies who would take advantage of a sagging economy by threatening my job if I didn't do ANYthing they wanted me to do. California is an expensive place to live (SF Bay Area), but where is it not?

I totally agree though, that Unions have been headed by individuals who are less than genuine, and it serves to add momentum to others' who want THEIR piece of the pie as well (we call it "greed"). I'm no lover of unions, but it has served to educate me as to just how bad things would be for us workers if they did not exist. Could things use revamping? Sure! But there are other issues in society that contribute to the moral decay, that are much more systemic in nature, and would have to be fixed first before any "symptoms" could be dealt with successfully. The UAW is just *1* union that is not "getting real". There HAVE to be concessions, on all sides, for things to moderate. Standing one's ground in such a staunch way is counter productive.

So, if you like your weekends, your 40-hour work week, and most of the labor protection laws on the books in ALL states (union and non-union) thank a union. They were the ones that fought for them, with or without yours and my help.

Well said.