The NEW 2009/2010 Ford Ranger


yeah for a new ranger they need to step up in the engine department and really make some fuel efficient power houses like three valve per cylinder models. i always thought they should build it on newer explorer platform. it dosent have to have IRS but it would be a stiffer frame wider body and better looking.possibly a v8 in stock form. yeah the sport trac would likely be that animal but its almost useless to haul anything unless its a bag of mulch and bag of potting soil. it is a vast improvement over the old sport trac. you just call it the ranger and just offer the current body configurations reg cab and super cab and leave the sport trac as is. but bring the bed measurement up to at least 5.5 or the size of a dakota quad cab bed size. that would be my idea for the "new ranger" or simple go all out on a clean sheet of paper and make it the size of the dakota call it the f100 ranger and offer the same cab and bed configurations. but would that take sales away from the f150? probably would, oh well what do we know we are just nobodys right ?
 
There is a truck-like thing Ford sells in some markets under the Courier/Bantam namebadge that shares the same platform as one of the small cars (Fiesta, I think). Probably what the Bantam in South Africa is. I doubt we will see it in this market.

The engine options will change if Ford continues with the Ranger. I don't know if Ford had stopped production of the 3.0L, but they don't have much of a supply. The 3.0L has been dropped from the Mazda trucks (B3000). The 4.0L is scheduled to cease production this year. The only replacement beyond the 2008 model year is the Duratec 35 or 37. Don't count on the 37 in the Ranger. That one is going in the F150. The 3.5L version of that engine will make a lot of people happy if it is placed in the Ranger. The 2.3L I4 is current technology, so don't expect that one to be replaced, but the same engine with larger displacement is always a possibility.
 
The engine options will change if Ford continues with the Ranger. I don't know if Ford had stopped production of the 3.0L, but they don't have much of a supply. The 3.0L has been dropped from the Mazda trucks (B3000). The 4.0L is scheduled to cease production this year. The only replacement beyond the 2008 model year is the Duratec 35 or 37. Don't count on the 37 in the Ranger. That one is going in the F150. The 3.5L version of that engine will make a lot of people happy if it is placed in the Ranger. The 2.3L I4 is current technology, so don't expect that one to be replaced, but the same engine with larger displacement is always a possibility.

I didn't know the 4.0 was on it's way out, knew about the 3.0. Why's the 4.2 getting replaced? That was a bad ass engine, plenty of tourqe and hp. That would be perfect in one of our trucks. I do agree a v8 option will be great, especially if it was hooked up to a manual trans.
 
That 3.5 is supposed to be a wicked engine, it only has 265 hp at 6,250 RPM and 250 ft·lbf at 4,500 RPM right now. It looks pretty peaky but with the variable camshafts and intake it is probably a fairly flat power curve.

The 3.7 is used right now in the Mazda CX-9 puts out 273 hp at 6,250 RPM and 270 ft·lbf 4,250 RPM, pretty sure that would send the 4.2 packing. The F-150 version is supposed to be direct injected and over 300 hp, which is what the 5.4 has now, the 5.4 will probably still beat it for torque though.
 
I gurantee the 5.4L will smoke it on torque. Its hard to argue with a 4.25 inch stroke.

later,
Dustin
 
4.2L being phased out

it should be that thing gets horrible gas mileage no matter what. it eats head gaskets and the aluminum pits with just water in it the aluminum is so bad a drop of coolant in a full coolingsystem with water will make the cylinder heads pit. that engine was bad from the word go outside of the power and torque.
 
That 3.5 is supposed to be a wicked engine, it only has 265 hp at 6,250 RPM and 250 ft·lbf at 4,500 RPM right now. It looks pretty peaky but with the variable camshafts and intake it is probably a fairly flat power curve.

Same technology, it's going to look like exatly like this, with the 10 extra hp coming from the extra 500rpm:
The NEW 2009/2010 Ford Ranger


Stroke has nothing to do with maximum torque. The amount of fuel burned per revolution has everything to do with maximum torque. Two motors of the same size and technology, no matter the geometry of the cylinders, will produce the same maximum torque. The advantage of having more stroke is that the piston speeds are higher at low speeds which means the cylinders can fill more quickly--and fully--at low rpms. it's maximum torque will tend to be at a lower rpm.

The disadvantages are that the valves are smaller because of the resulting small bore for the same displacement. And also that top rpm is lower because the pistons are going too fast. You would expect the large bore motor to be capable of more maximum horsepower with the maximum torque at a somewhat higher rpm.
 
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Oldies Can Be Goodies
Jerry Flint 10.09.07, 6:00 AM ET

The NEW 2009/2010 Ford Ranger
The NEW 2009/2010 Ford Ranger
The NEW 2009/2010 Ford Ranger


Auto industry executives keep promising that they will offer us the latest and greatest. Sometimes that is a bad idea.

Look at the small pickup market. Ford Motor (nyse: F - news - people ) once was king here with its Ranger, whose sales once peaked at around 400,000 units a year. Ford plans to shutter the Ranger plant next year, and the belief is that it is getting out of the small pickup business. Ford’s standard-sized pickup, the Ford F-150, sold so well, and the company has so many other pressing needs, that it stopped investing in the Ranger.

General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ) (Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon), Chrysler (Dodge Dakota) and Nissan (nasdaq: NSANY - news - people ) (Frontier) still make small pickups, but these models are fading too. Toyota (nyse: TM - news - people ) is a notable exception. While its competitors retreat from this segment, it has expanded its Tacoma small pickup line. I figure that Toyota will sell about 180,000 Tacoma pickups this year, about the same as last year’s number. That is not bad business. If Ford kills the Ranger, as it seems it will, Toyota could grow past 200,000, maybe to 250,000 a year in volume. In today’s environment, any vehicle with a quarter of a million sales a year is a winner.

Look at the pony cars. Remember when every company offered a stylish, rear-wheel-drive sporty coupe to compete with the Ford Mustang? Even American Motors and Toyota fielded entries. Then these cars all disappeared--all but the Mustang. For years, Ford had this market all to itself and profited handsomely from it. Then Ford sleeked up its Mustang and had even more success. Now Chevrolet will build a Camaro again, and Dodge is readying its Challenger. Mustang will not be the last one standing for long.

For years, Ford was the last American manufacturer still offering large traditional rear-drive sedans, the Ford Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car. Having amortized the tooling for these cars ages ago, these cars put billions into Ford’s coffers. Unfortunately, Ford neglected these sedans and the company now seems resigned to letting them die. Meanwhile, in 2004, Chrysler came out with a stylish new rear-drive sedan, the Chrysler 300, and later the Dodge Charger, and these models are a hit. GM is getting ready to jump back into this market.

The same thing is happening with minivans. Ford is out of the business, and GM will be quitting. That leaves Chrysler and the Asians. At one time this market was good for over a million units a year, but demand is shrinking. Even so, as one of the survivors Chrysler will still sell near 300,000 minivans this year. With GM and Ford out, and with new, restyled models, Chrysler will still have a healthy minivan business.

The big fad today is the crossover, a sport utility vehicle based on a car chassis instead of a truck frame. These CUVs, as some people call them, are grabbing market share from both the truck-based sport utility market and from minivans. Consumers are flocking to CUVs because they are smoother riding, lighter and use less fuel. CUVs cannot tow as much, and aren’t as good off-road, but that trade-off is worthwhile for people who do not need to tow large loads or do not plan on taking their vehicle down rugged unpaved trails.

It looks as if car makers are planning to phase out some standard-sized SUVs and replace them with crossovers. The Chevy Trailblazer and GMC Envoy, for example, are apparently not part of GM’s future product plans. Sales of the two vehicles last year, 249,000, were down 29% from the year before, and sales this year are running 27% behind 2006.

While those sturdy SUVs are losing ground, GM is doing quite well with its three new crossovers (Saturn Outlook, Buick Enclave and GMC Envoy). The three--all built off a common architecture--are selling at a 150,000 a year rate, and next year GM will begin building a Chevy version of this crossover. GM’s plan is to have these vehicles take up the slack from its older SUVs. Of course, it will still have the larger Chevy Tahoe and Suburban models and its GMC versions for customers who want truck-like sport utility vehicles.

Now Ford already has a new crossover called the Edge, along with a Lincoln version called the MKX. They are selling well--120,000 in nine months. Ford’s traditional SUV, the Explorer, is fading. Last year’s sales, 179,000, were down 25% from the year before. This year they are off another 23%. We hear that Ford’s next Explorer will probably be another crossover instead of a truck-based SUV.

It is a similar story at Chrysler. Its big Dodge Durango SUV is slumping and its counterpart, the Chrysler Aspen, introduced in 2007, never gained much traction. The company announced that in it is going to close the Newark, Delaware plant where it builds those two vehicles. What happens to those traditional truck-based SUVs when the plant shuts down is still a question, but the company is planning to build some hybrid versions before the plant closes.

Think about it. By the time Ford gets around to killing the Explorer, most of the others of that size will be gone. Plenty of folks still will want a vehicle like the Explorer or the Dodge Durango. Why not be the last one standing instead of leaving all the business to Toyota, which will certainly keep building its 4Runner?

Ford could make the Explorer--and its Mercury sidekick, the Mountaineer--more appealing. It could put extra effort into the six-cylinder versions instead of V-8s, and work to improve power and fuel economy as well as trim costs.

We all know that the trend is away from minivans and truck-based SUVs. That does not mean that all the business is going to disappear.

Ford in particular has killed so many models that it is time its executives started thinking about how to save a business instead of destroying it.

It can pay to be the last one standing.
 
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Like the small displacement vs power myth technology is kind of killing the anti stroke myth though too. They are getting these things tight enough and made out the right material to take winding up without much of a problem. The 5.4 with a supercharger went into worlds fastest production car (at the time) the Ford GT. I am not sure of the official ranking but it is also has more stroke than most engines Ford has built. The heads on a 3v 5.4 will outflow some of the 4v heads they had available for them, and they also have the variable valve timing and variable intake setups as well. All the way around they are a bear of an engine, it is going to be ugly in 20 years when the wiring breaks down but until then they are tough to beat.
 
man all i have to say is the day the Ranger is no more is an EXTREMELY sad day, mine is 15 years old and I've had not one problem with the truck. Put in a clutch and new A/C but thats it. I absolutely love the styling of these trucks, and the function and price and don't think theres much competition against them, but seeing how ford ROYALY made a piece of crap 2008 diesel truck i guess they might as well ruin the rest of the new trucks while their at it.:buttkick:
 
I absolutely love the styling of these trucks, and the function and price and don't think theres much competition against them, but seeing how ford ROYALY made a piece of crap 2008 diesel truck i guess they might as well ruin the rest of the new trucks while their at it.:buttkick:

Care to elaborate? I haven't heard of very many issues with the new diesel yet. I don't really care for the looks a whole lot but if you want a F-250/350 sized diesel I don't think there is a better one out there.
 
ya, the 08' diesel engines are supposed to be tough, but the combined ugly styling with the fact you have to remove the entire cab for most engine work sucks. We actually just got rid of an 07 250 and got the dodge, just can't compete with the cummins engine, theres no competition, it kicks ass not to mention practically bullet proof!
 
You can save the Ranger!

I'm sure most all of you are familiar with the Ford Probe, It was slated to be the next Mustang back in the eighties. Well, the Mustang crowd got wind of the "New front wheel drive Mustang" and started a letter writing campaign telling Ford what a huge mistake that would be to make the Mustang a front driver. As you all know, the Mustang remained a RWD car, and where's the Probe today? Out of production and in your local wrecking yards.:word:
So get out your pens and paper, because in this electronic world, an e-mail does not show passion like a 18 wheeler full of letters does.
AKA: the pen is mightier than the keyboard.

Respectfully submitted; Rick " If you cut me, do I not bleed Ford blue?"
past cars
'66 Mustang
'66 F100 custom cab
'68 Galaxy
3 more '66 Mustangs Oh how I love the 66
'69 Fairlane
'76 Granada ghia I bought it for the 9" disk brake diff 4 my Mustang
'95 Cougar XR7
Current cars
'90 Lincoln Mark VII
'95 Ranger
'05 Mustang
 
one thing to keep in mind when seeing these hp/tourque #s, look at the rpm where its rated at, sure 265 seems like alot of horses and it is but at 6250 rpm? youre going to need to stay in 4 low and have 4.56's in the differentials for it to be useable, i dont know how they expect to get much of a lifespan out of these short-rod motors with the squirrels being wrung out of them to get max power, a weed eater does a good job wound out, but ever try it at low to half speed, it dont work well, even less if you change the line head to a circular saw blade.
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