The gun thread...

[85_Ranger4x4]

that depends on which 700 you're talking about. a good true action and match barrel is nothing if it's sitting in a POS stock.

POS barrels and actions are even less helpful in a top of the line stock.

 

[hoosier1104]

Better than I can.

I'd recommend an 18lb recoil spring, the stocker is a little soft. I run a 22lb in mine but I'm shooting some nuclear 10mm, the 22lb spring runs great with .40 too but it's a little on the heavy side if it was a dedicated .40 gun.

So a spring upgrade is needed then. This going to be everyday carry and it is a dedicated .40 at all time.

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[hoosier1104]

dude, if you f*cked up the quilts, my grandma is gonna be pissed

I was watching Grown Ups when I was downloading the app and I did not want to come across as a dick. Plus I thought it was pretty funny too.

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[Hahnsb2]

So a spring upgrade is needed then. This going to be everyday carry and it is a dedicated .40 at all time.

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I wouldn't say needed but I'd recommend it.

 

[Will]

I've been mostly a handgun and shotgun person since my departure from government service, but a few months ago I bought a Crosman Optimus air rifle. I was impressed. I really couldn't shoot a rifle because of the location, so I've been out of practice. Handgunning is a combat thing done at close range and without sights, and I keep proficient at that, but I wanted to get my rifle marksmanship back. I'm really amazed at the power and accuracy of this break-barrel air rifle. It was $88 and came with a cheap scope. The scope and mounts weren't up to the task of surviving the surprising knock a break-barrel air gun gives them. I replaced them with a $60 mount and a $100 scope, but the gun is awesome. I have a range set up out of my kitchen window: 50, 75 and 100yds. Amazingly, this Crosman Optimus is a sure thing at 75 yards. At 100yds, if there is no wind, it's a sure thing. Any wind and the pellet has lost enough stem that it's inaccurate. The pellets come out baking. There is no drop at 50yds. At 75 there is some and at 100 there is a lot. The cool thing is, you can keep your shooting skills alive. Shooting a pistol or shotgun is a totally different skill for combat shooting. It's muscle memory--point and shoot. It's like punching with you fist. Shooting at range, you need to use your trigger control, breath control, sight alignment, sight picture, body alignment, natural point of aim--all that crap you learned during weeks of training and had to prove you retained every year on the range.

A real air rifle is a damn good thing to have to keep your skills sharp. I can shoot a 250-round can in a day out my kitchen window. Want to buy 270s?

Another thing I discovered--Walther PPKS BB pistol. It cycles the slide and uses a magazine just like the real one. It weighs the same, feels the same, acts the same. You know that pistol combat is jerk it out and shoot--this is an exact repo designed for this exact training. It costs about $70 and is worth every penny if your purpose is training. It's perfect.

 

[scotts90ranger]

I've been mostly a handgun and shotgun person since my departure from government service, but a few months ago I bought a Crosman Optimus air rifle. I was impressed. I really couldn't shoot a rifle because of the location, so I've been out of practice. Handgunning is a combat thing done at close range and without sights, and I keep proficient at that, but I wanted to get my rifle marksmanship back. I'm really amazed at the power and accuracy of this break-barrel air rifle. It was $88 and came with a cheap scope. The scope and mounts weren't up to the task of surviving the surprising knock a break-barrel air gun gives them. I replaced them with a $60 mount and a $100 scope, but the gun is awesome. I have a range set up out of my kitchen window: 50, 75 and 100yds. Amazingly, this Crosman Optimus is a sure thing at 75 yards. At 100yds, if there is no wind, it's a sure thing. Any wind and the pellet has lost enough stem that it's inaccurate. The pellets come out baking. There is no drop at 50yds. At 75 there is some and at 100 there is a lot. The cool thing is, you can keep your shooting skills alive. Shooting a pistol or shotgun is a totally different skill for combat shooting. It's muscle memory--point and shoot. It's like punching with you fist. Shooting at range, you need to use your trigger control, breath control, sight alignment, sight picture, body alignment, natural point of aim--all that crap you learned during weeks of training and had to prove you retained every year on the range.

A real air rifle is a damn good thing to have to keep your skills sharp. I can shoot a 250-round can in a day out my kitchen window. Want to buy 270s?

Back before my Fiancee left walmart I made use of the discount I picked up the Beemann dual caliber air rifle for like $89, similar to your Crossmann but comes with a .22 barrel and a .177 barrel and a somewhat better scope although I haven't put a whole bunch of pellets through it. I was shooting it at my moms house on the river, shot one small mouth bass (was curious, it got it) from about 40 yards and was hitting floating leaves at about 75 yards. At 75 yards I had to aim about 3" up but was repeatable. I haven't put the .22 barrel on yet, I've been contemplating methods of not having to sight the rifle in when changing barrels. I was going to see how it would do on a Nutria yesterday but by the time I got it out it was gone...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I still like my old Red Ryder for cheap plinking, pretty darn accurate for what it is.

Extremely fun for popping deer eating the bushes in the winter too.

 

[Will]

We've got one of those, too. It's accurate enough that if you put your hand in front of the barrel and pull the trigger, 9 times out of ten you'll hit your hand. Actually, it's pretty good for coffee-can sized targets at 50 feet. I shoot at my wife's sunflowers with it.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

We've got one of those, too. It's accurate enough that if you put your hand in front of the barrel and pull the trigger, 9 times out of ten you'll hit your hand. Actually, it's pretty good for coffee-can sized targets at 50 feet. I shoot at my wife's sunflowers with it.

I can hear the leathery smack for as many shots as I can get off before the deer turns and departs at 50 yards.

Kinda scary, just thinking back the thing is close to 20 years old.

 

[lone-wolf]

Since we're on pellet guns,
Not my photo, but these are the 'cooey' of pellet guns in Canada. Lots of them up here. Mine is at least 20years old, works great, and was originally my older brother's.

 

[4.0B2]

pellet guns? really guys???

 

[scotts90ranger]

1000fps, ~$4/500 rounds of ammo, legal in most residential areas to shoot, these aren't the pellet guns you had when you were 10... I'm all for bigger guns but I have an acre and like 5 neighbors that are very nosy... technically I could shoot a .22 without getting in trouble but that doesn't mean they won't call the cops just because, they've done it before for stupider things.

 

[4.0B2]

Nothing against pellet guns; I'm just saying who would ever think a gun thread on a truck site would go to pellet guns? Shouldn't all us guys be talking bigger and better and 50 cal's and... Whatever else! Lol

 

[88_Eddie]

we talk about bow and arrows and we arent indians, well i'm not

 

[Will]

Nothing against pellet guns; I'm just saying who would ever think a gun thread on a truck site would go to pellet guns? Shouldn't all us guys be talking bigger and better and 50 cal's and... Whatever else! Lol

You pay about $2.00 each time you shoot a 270. A 50-round string of fire on the Marine Corps know-distance course would cost you $100, and you do that twice a day as a recruit during the week you are on the range--If it's your first experience with a gun, that's enough training to keep you from shooting yourself in the foot. Navy Seals shoot 500 rounds per day during training. That's basically free using that Walther PPKS CO2 pistol I mentioned earlier, and You can throw in another $2.50 for 250 pellets for some sniper training. The average police sniper shot is from 80 yards, which a break-barrel pellet rifle can do.

Sure, these aren't cool, but they are valid training tools and you should have thousands of shots, not a single box of shells, in your history.