steering geometry and faze

[4x4junkie]

Well...
6" lift puts the axle 2" further down than 4" lift... (should be obvious if you read the article)

 

[rmn42689]

o alright then, thanks

 

[4x4junkie]

If you modify the centerlink more than 2", you may want to also rework the upper end of the idler arm a bit too, as this will increase the leverage on it (increase the distance between the upper idler arm bushings by lengthening it's tube and widening the bracket on the frame, this way it's supported better).

 

[rmn42689]

alright sounds good, ill keep that in mind, this wnt happen till march or so when i get the lift...which i was getting a 6inch from skyjacker

 

[dave@threat]

Here are some pics of a 2wd Ranger with the correct steering. It has an 1/8" of bump steer "throughout" 23" of wheel travel. Actual travel with shocks is 20"

 

[4x4junkie]

Dang, that's some heavy-duty engine hoist there lol

Very nice

 

[Beanmachine7000]

Is that just a modified Ranger steering? I can't tell what it looks like from your pics, could you explain? I'm confused...

 

[4x4junkie]

Looks like it's using a crossover setup.

 

[Beanmachine7000]

Looks like it's using a crossover setup.

I honestly have no idea what that means... I know a bit about steering and such, just not familiar with that term... I'm just really interested in what he's got going on, it looks like no steering set up I've ever seen...

 

[4x4junkie]

Read the article I linked earlier in this thread. Crossover (AKA Swingset) steering is touched upon in it.

 

[Beanmachine7000]

I've read that article a billion and one times, lol... Just never really looked at that set up... So, does the little bracket thingy (don't know the correct term) the driver side tierod attaches to move? It looks attached to the frame...

I circled it in yellow, what is it? Does it move? I don't see how it would work if it doesn't move...

 

[bobbywalter]

yes

 

[Beanmachine7000]

Sweet, thanks... The picture was just a little decieving because I couldn't tell if that thing moved or not... I learned something new

 

[4x4junkie]

Yep. In that particular example, the passengerside tierod is connected directly to the pitman arm, whereas the driverside tierod gets connected to that swingarm (which pivots from the frame). From there the swingarm is then connected to the pitman arm.

Some (more elaborate) setups use two swingarms in order to better place each tierod (both sides) on the same pivoting axis as each side of the suspension.

 

[dave@threat]

Dang, that's some heavy-duty engine hoist there lol

Very nice

Haha yeah that thing comes in very handy at times.

Yep. In that particular example, the passengerside tierod is connected directly to the pitman arm, whereas the driverside tierod gets connected to that swingarm (which pivots from the frame). From there the swingarm is then connected to the pitman arm.

Some (more elaborate) setups use two swingarms in order to better place each tierod (both sides) on the same pivoting axis as each side of the suspension.

Exactly right! Here is pic of my steering kit for equal length beams.