Stacks? What do you think

[broughton88]

hahah this guy is just getting ripped on... well now my turn i would NOT put stacks on a gas engine it would most likely make people thinking your lacking a lil in the pants. get a cummins and put some stacks on that then people wont give you shit.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

hahah this guy is just getting ripped on... well now my turn i would NOT put stacks on a gas engine it would most likely make people thinking your lacking a lil in the pants. get a cummins and put some stacks on that then people wont give you shit.

I would.

They look just as tacky on a big pickup posing as a semi as they do on a little pickup posing as a semi, for the same reason you gave gas, diesel, propane... whatever. They serve no practical point on a street driven truck aside from looks. They are great for offroad equipment to keep the hot exhaust away from flamable vegetation but with a truck the hottest part of the exhaust is still under the cab making it worthless for that.

But that is just my opinion for what little it is worth.

 

[Jason]

That's right. Stacks are stupid on any pickup regardless of engine. It's like the idiots with Peterbilt emblems on their F-series trucks.

 

[broughton88]

so your saying you wouldnt like a big cummins or powerstroke with 8'' stacks rollin coals out of them? you aint no country boy then

 

[BONES]

I always thought stacks on an off road rig were there to allow for deep water crossings so your exhaust back pressure isn't effected and also so you don't fill up your exhaust with water if you stall the engine, which could in turn suck some water into the engine if you have a valve problem or something similar.

I have dual stacks out the bed of my 68 Land Rover with small block Chevy power sitting on 40's. They work great, the also get the exhaust gas up out of the trail, mine exit a foot over head and about a foot back from the back of the cab and I have yet to smell them at any speed going backwards or forwards.

When you get stuck in that mud hole and your exhaust gas are hanging around on the ground because your pipe tip is sitting in the mud you start to wonder if stacks are a good idea. Or how bout when you back up in the mud hole and fill your tail pipe full of mud and it stalls the engine, but that's cool right? Cause stacks look gay? Function over looks for me, and my stacks aren't for looks, I believe in function over form.

Let the flaming begin.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

so your saying you wouldnt like a big cummins or powerstroke with 8'' stacks rollin coals out of them? you aint no country boy then

No I am not a hillbilly redneck. I deal with quite a few farmers and have yet to see a real country boy sporting stacks on a pickup. Most can't afford to lose the bedspace. Aside from maybe a tuner most trucks that really get used stay 110% stock. I saw stacks on poser trucks quite often when I lived in Omaha though, they were highly impressive in their efforts to make their trucks smoke doing nothing.

Our old diesel tractors have just a slight haze out the pipe when under a heavy load (like plowing) Guess who will run the most fuel thru their rig, run hotter and have more mechanical problems... the guy with a slight haze or the guy rolling coal? It is a no brainer for anyone that isn't a idiot and keeps track of expenses.

I would take a Powerstroke (I would rather have the new 6.2 though) and put a nice sounding exhaust on it out the back like god intended it.

For offroading it is a different game, but mud in the pipe has never an issue for me. When my 2.8 was spry enough for such things the pipe ended right above the rear axle where it is pretty hard for anything to get at it. I do get tired of dealing with tree branches and door openings with my tractors though... not to mention putting a can on them and remembering to take it off before it is launched into a low orbit at startup in the interest of keeping rainwater out. The LR cab lends itself to stacks better for offroading than a Ranger, in the same place on a Ranger they would be tree branch bait.

An example of how I run a stack:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/85_Ranger/My Tractors/Picture135.jpg?t=1272994531

 

[Jason]

so your saying you wouldnt like a big cummins or powerstroke with 8'' stacks rollin coals out of them? you aint no country boy then

It isn't nice to call country boys stupid.

Frankly 8 inch stacks are even worse. Unless you have a 13 liter+ diesel, you will see no benefit from those stacks at all.

 

[broughton88]

No I am not a hillbilly redneck. I deal with quite a few farmers and have yet to see a real country boy sporting stacks on a pickup. Most can't afford to lose the bedspace. Aside from maybe a tuner most trucks that really get used stay 110% stock. I saw stacks on poser trucks quite often when I lived in Omaha though, they were highly impressive in their efforts to make their trucks smoke doing nothing.

Our old diesel tractors have just a slight haze out the pipe when under a heavy load (like plowing) Guess who will run the most fuel thru their rig, run hotter and have more mechanical problems... the guy with a slight haze or the guy rolling coal? It is a no brainer for anyone that isn't a idiot and keeps track of expenses.

I would take a Powerstroke (I would rather have the new 6.2 though) and put a nice sounding exhaust on it out the back like god intended it.

For offroading it is a different game, but mud in the pipe has never an issue for me. When my 2.8 was spry enough for such things the pipe ended right above the rear axle where it is pretty hard for anything to get at it. I do get tired of dealing with tree branches and door openings with my tractors though... not to mention putting a can on them and remembering to take it off before it is launched into a low orbit at startup in the interest of keeping rainwater out. The LR cab lends itself to stacks better for offroading than a Ranger, in the same place on a Ranger they would be tree branch bait.

An example of how I run a stack:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v623/85_Ranger/My Tractors/Picture135.jpg?t=1272994531

alright buddy..ha.. if you turn up a diesel its gonna pour out black smoke more so a 12v cummins and if you had one you would no from experence if your pulling horses or cattle you dont want all the diesel fumes going all over the horses its better to have a stack or two and get all exhaust up in the air and away from wat your hallin and it also lowers you egts. i had a stack on my cummins there is goods and bads it depends right now its 4'' turbo back and i wouldnt want to be the guy behind me. oh and also my cummins has 285xxx on it with no mechanical problems and gets 18mpg city no load and its a 12v. and my stock 06 f350 king ranch get 15.5 in town so wats that tell ya...

 

[superds]

alright buddy..ha.. if you turn up a diesel its gonna pour out black smoke more so a 12v cummins and if you had one you would no from experence if your pulling horses or cattle you dont want all the diesel fumes going all over the horses its better to have a stack or two and get all exhaust up in the air and away from wat your hallin and it also lowers you egts. i had a stack on my cummins there is goods and bads it depends right now its 4'' turbo back and i wouldnt want to be the guy behind me. oh and also my cummins has 285xxx on it with no mechanical problems and gets 18mpg city no load and its a 12v. and my stock 06 f350 king ranch get 15.5 in town so wats that tell ya...

So, that tells me a 6BT gets better fuel economy than a Ford 6.0 Powerstroke. Doesn't surprise me.

 

[bobbywalter]

I always thought stacks on an off road rig were there to allow for deep water crossings so your exhaust back pressure isn't effected and also so you don't fill up your exhaust with water if you stall the engine, which could in turn suck some water into the engine if you have a valve problem or something similar.

I have dual stacks out the bed of my 68 Land Rover with small block Chevy power sitting on 40's. They work great, the also get the exhaust gas up out of the trail, mine exit a foot over head and about a foot back from the back of the cab and I have yet to smell them at any speed going backwards or forwards.

When you get stuck in that mud hole and your exhaust gas are hanging around on the ground because your pipe tip is sitting in the mud you start to wonder if stacks are a good idea. Or how bout when you back up in the mud hole and fill your tail pipe full of mud and it stalls the engine, but that's cool right? Cause stacks look gay? Function over looks for me, and my stacks aren't for looks, I believe in function over form.

Let the flaming begin.

DUDE......that thing is badass!


i was serious when i said i was rethinking the stacks for trail use, though with a gasser its never been an issue. this diesel on the other hand gets a tad cloudy under load. si i have thought of a cut out type setup so i can just pop a small pipe on when it proves desirable....


but your rig is friggen cool regardless

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

alright buddy..ha.. if you turn up a diesel its gonna pour out black smoke more so a 12v cummins and if you had one you would no from experence if your pulling horses or cattle you dont want all the diesel fumes going all over the horses its better to have a stack or two and get all exhaust up in the air and away from wat your hallin and it also lowers you egts. i had a stack on my cummins there is goods and bads it depends right now its 4'' turbo back and i wouldnt want to be the guy behind me. oh and also my cummins has 285xxx on it with no mechanical problems and gets 18mpg city no load and its a 12v. and my stock 06 f350 king ranch get 15.5 in town so wats that tell ya...

Yes, I am aware that a turned up or chipped diesel will smoke more than one running as the factory recommends. They all smoke, not just Cummins.

Just had a guys tractor in the shop with a first gen Cummins Dodge. He hauls livestock for hire, it is turned up a little, he hauls livestock all over gods green earth with the factory style exhaust and a fifth wheel trailer. With a openish modern trailer I think it would be better to have the fumes down low rather than up higher anyway. I have seen it in action on hills, the smoke goes quite aways away from the truck. Since it has close to 300k and he is having problem finding parts (something with the Speedo broke) he got a '06, he lost 5 mpg loaded... 15mpg to 10mpg needless to say he isn't an over happy camper and still drives ol' blue when he comes in. Heck of a guy, he is in his late 70's.

Nobody around here has stacks on their pickup, livestock hauler or not.

My Ranger smokes too, and I do feel sorry for those that follow which is why I don't drive it much anymore. But I would love to get infront of some of the punks I have seen with a diesel that think it is fun to throw smoke everywhere and make their eyes water.

 

[Jason]

Yes, I am aware that a turned up or chipped diesel will smoke more than one running as the factory recommends. They all smoke, not just Cummins.

Just had a guys tractor in the shop with a first gen Cummins Dodge. He hauls livestock for hire, it is turned up a little, he hauls livestock all over gods green earth with the factory style exhaust and a fifth wheel trailer. With a openish modern trailer I think it would be better to have the fumes down low rather than up higher anyway. I have seen it in action on hills, the smoke goes quite aways away from the truck. Since it has close to 300k and he is having problem finding parts (something with the Speedo broke) he got a '06, he lost 5 mpg loaded... 15mpg to 10mpg needless to say he isn't an over happy camper and still drives ol' blue when he comes in. Heck of a guy, he is in his late 70's.

Nobody around here has stacks on their pickup, livestock hauler or not.

My Ranger smokes too, and I do feel sorry for those that follow which is why I don't drive it much anymore. But I would love to get infront of some of the punks I have seen with a diesel that think it is fun to throw smoke everywhere and make their eyes water.

I used to go to horse shows with my friend Jill. There may be 200 trucks in the lot at some of the larger shows and I NEVER saw one with stacks. If these breeders and show horses are ok with a factory exhaust, anyone that thinks they need stacks is just fooling themselves.

 

[Boggin]

well when i bring my truck over to my moms (a week or 2) id love to have a set of stacks cause theres an old road that goes in to a big clear opening its the ultimate wheeling spot lol and it has water that can be deep enough to loose a vehicle in, so stacks would be pretty handy there along with a snorkel, also theres a big bog right next to the place, and i ripped my tailpipe off before in my b2 being on a bog

 

[strvger]

i luv 'em!! they're great for the gf to use for poll dancing at the tailgate parties!!

 

[broughton88]

the main reason people put stacks on big cummins,fords,dmaxs is for more exhaust flow and to lower EGT's when there all turned up mainly pulling and drag.everyine has there own opinons about things everyone would say differnt. but when you see a full size gasser with them it is just so so so wrong. i was fooling around the other day with my ranger and i would think some 3 1/2 stacks/tips would look good just lower than cab with tool box. i would think it would be better for deep swamps or mud pits because if you kill your truck in a swap all the water usally sucks back up to engine due to back pressure. what you guys think?