Speeding tickets

[281Ranger]

So even if the law is bullshit and mostly isn't serving its purpose people should just shut up and pay instead of something ELSE being ticketed.... oh, and definitely DONT question it... it's the law.

Are they bullshit laws or is it bullshit people that use that excuse to justify breaking the laws?

 

[JohnnyO]

Some of both.
Theoretically, if you don't like a law then elect people who will change it.
Easier said than done.

 

[skippy]

Pay in small change...

when paying by mail,overpay by a few dollars,that throws a wrench in the system.

 

[94redranger]

I agree I broke the law on this ticket but it does give me an option of going to the court date on the ticket and pleading not guilty. So if I have that option then there's nothing wrong with at least trying to get out of the ticket. (wouldn't everyone like to keep their 126$ if they could?)

 

[yyc_tbird_sc]

Shoeboy...sorry to hear about your luck with the courts.

94redranger....when you go to the traffic court, go and talk with the justice-of-the-peace and plead guilty but ask to talk with the prosecutor to ask for a lesser fine. He will talk to you for a bit, then you'll see the justice of the peace again, here he/she will tell you what the prosecutor's offer is and whether or not you agree. If you agree, then you can pay it or ask for an extension.

 

[QuakerShaker4242]

what was the cost of the ticket? 126? oh gosh i would had loved to get that ticket.

im in the situation now where im refusing to pay a $455 ticket for speeding 15 over.

heres the situation... i got the ticket on the 4th of july and there just happened to be a law set in on the 1st of july that said if you speed in a construction zone then its an automatic $300 dollars plus the price of the date that isnt even mandatory for you to go to. well the officer told me everything i need to do and gave me all the paperwork on the billing of the ticket. i go into the police station to pay the ticket with my $175 like i was supposed to according to the officer and the paperwork i was given to and the lady at the desk sais that my total will be $455.. i was like excuse me...


so here i am. i went in to the optional court date and pleaded innocent so i can at least try to get it reduced... after all... I AM PAYING FOR THE COURT DATE ANYWAYS so im supposed to go in on october 9th.



all i can say is do not speed in working zones... not only are they expensive beyond no other... there are lives at stake.

i know i learned my lesson

 

[DK27]

Are they bullshit laws or is it bullshit people that use that excuse to justify breaking the laws?

Please man... provide me solid evidence that not speeding is keeping people safe?

You think that two cars doing 80 on a freeway with, I dunno, 8-10 car lengths inbetween them is LESS safe than two people doing 55 with 1 yard of distance? But hey, the person doing 80 all by themselves out in front is really the dangerous one!

Or how about like what has been mentioned before...the super fast changes in speed --- especially when there's no obvious difference in area (like you didn't just enter a town etc).

What about people who merge onto the highway at the wrong time and are moving slow thus nearly causing accidents?! Those people are wicked dangerous but I don't see cops sitting to pull them over. That's the kinda shit that would actually keep the roads safer. But hey, they're not speeding!!!

Can't you provide any justification for some of these tickets other than "it's the law." So what, all of a sudden if the government decides something we should all just bow?! That does a lot of good. Bleh, I could go on for days.

There is a difference between driving like an idiot and driving "fast."

 

[281Ranger]

Please man... provide me solid evidence that not speeding is keeping people safe?

You think that two cars doing 80 on a freeway with, I dunno, 8-10 car lengths inbetween them is LESS safe than two people doing 55 with 1 yard of distance? But hey, the person doing 80 all by themselves out in front is really the dangerous one!

Or how about like what has been mentioned before...the super fast changes in speed --- especially when there's no obvious difference in area (like you didn't just enter a town etc).

What about people who merge onto the highway at the wrong time and are moving slow thus nearly causing accidents?! Those people are wicked dangerous but I don't see cops sitting to pull them over. That's the kinda shit that would actually keep the roads safer. But hey, they're not speeding!!!

Can't you provide any justification for some of these tickets other than "it's the law." So what, all of a sudden if the government decides something we should all just bow?! That does a lot of good. Bleh, I could go on for days.

There is a difference between driving like an idiot and driving "fast."

The people you mention ARE the reason there are speed limits. If everyone was allowed to drive the way they wanted it would be like going to a figure eight race at the stock car track. There are just too many idiots on the road. Even if you're not an idiot, everyone else is. Because they cannot build seperate roads for idiots and non-idiots we're all supposed to follow the same laws. And last time I checked there's no roadside test to determine if somebody is an idiot or not (although with some people it's real easy to tell).

 

[DK27]

The people you mention ARE the reason there are speed limits. If everyone was allowed to drive the way they wanted it would be like going to a figure eight race at the stock car track. There are just too many idiots on the road. Even if you're not an idiot, everyone else is. Because they cannot build seperate roads for idiots and non-idiots we're all supposed to follow the same laws. And last time I checked there's no roadside test to determine if somebody is an idiot or not (although with some people it's real easy to tell).

How the heck does that make any sense? Pretty obvious that the speed limit isn't causing people to actually drive better.

 

[samsonitesamsonite]

I have got out of 2 speedings tickets in the last year and I also got out of a no insurance ticket, (I had insurance but I hadn't put the most up to date proof in the truck)

 

[Simple_serf]

I have to laugh at what we have around here. You get a road that was worked on, and then they leave the const. area signs up for 2 years so they can collect the increased fines. The fines aren't a big deal, but the NY fees add up to more than the fine.

Even better are the roads that they seasonally drop the speed limit down on. Then they wonder why people go and speed on the secondary roads. It was brought up in the town meeting a few weeks ago, that because the road was engineered to be a 55 MPH rd, it's probably a better idea to keep the speed 55 instead so that people don't speed in the residential area....mmmm imagine that!

 

[LearjetMinako]

So people actually follow those speed limit signs. . If I ever did that here, my tailgate would be inside the bed. Around here in OKC, people will still drive at 70mph or more in a 60mph zone. I do my best to be the slower part of traffic. No sense trying to keep up in a 4-banger Ranger, I've got time to spare.

 

[JoshT]

3 tickets in 3 years for 20 over each, at least I'm consistent. The last was the day after the 6 month suspension from the first 2, hey, I had to make sure the truck was running right didn't I (not to mention I was slowing down when he clocked me).

The only one I went to court on was the first and that wasn't to get it dropped. The cop pulled me over when I was running 75 in a 55, he wrongly accused me of doing 30+ over the speed limit which would have gotten my license suspended by itself (I was 16 at the time). I went to court pleading nolo, I wasn't trying to say I wasn't guilty of speeding, only that I wasn't guilty of running 30 over, and the ticket was lowered to the proper amount. I was speeding, I got caught it was time for me to pay for my mistake. The other two I was doing as the ticket said, so I paid the fine. I've now been ticket free for 3+ years and plan to stay that way.

 

[MAKG]

I agree I broke the law on this ticket but it does give me an option of going to the court date on the ticket and pleading not guilty. So if I have that option then there's nothing wrong with at least trying to get out of the ticket. (wouldn't everyone like to keep their 126$ if they could?)

There would be nothing wrong if you didn't do it.

You DID do it. You are guilty.

Anything else is a rationalization at best (ESPECIALLY the tired old saws DK27 has been spouting -- he seems to think all collisions are between one vehicle and another and that the other is always speeding; neither of those are even close to true).

Pleading not guilty means you are saying you didn't do it. That's a lie. Take your penalty like a man and quit trying to dodge your responsibility.

 

[DK27]

There would be nothing wrong if you didn't do it.

You DID do it. You are guilty.

Anything else is a rationalization at best (ESPECIALLY the tired old saws DK27 has been spouting -- he seems to think all collisions are between one vehicle and another and that the other is always speeding; neither of those are even close to true).

Pleading not guilty means you are saying you didn't do it. That's a lie. Take your penalty like a man and quit trying to dodge your responsibility.

Really MAKG where do you come up with this stuff sometimes? I did come anywhere near to syaing that. You are the one that is alwasy stating the the gov't and everyone else should be questioned but if it's speeding then don't bother huh?

If you're going to repeat what I'm saying at least say it right cuse it's not even close. Good job on this one.