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06RangerXLT

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so im going to put racing seats in my truck. i need to know how to wire up the electrical conector that hooks to the buckle. if its disconnected my airbag light flashes. also i need to know what kinda safety system is hooked into the buckle. i dont wanna mess with my airbag. any info on if the wires need to be connected to a buckle would be great! also what do they do? and is it safe to bypass them, and use a standard bolt in buckle for my seatbelt?
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I assume you plan to use some type of racing-style harness as well? Make sure they are properly designed and installed, if not, they will actually cause you much more bodily injury than they will prevent.

The seatbelt switch is likely just a contact switch.
 
Well, if you are going with a harness and plan on using it, and make your passenger use one, then there isn't a need for the airbags which are just going to cause more injury when they go off, especially if your passenger is wearing glasses. Airbags are for people who don't wear seatbelts, and I don't allow them in my personal vehicles.

And you do NOT bolt the harness directly to the body or frame, you drill through the body, and mount a thick steel plate on the opposite side so that the belt is actually bolted to something solid. They'll tear right out of sheet metal in a crash.
 
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airbags... cause more injury when they go off, especially if your passenger is wearing glasses. Airbags are for people who don't wear seatbelts, and I don't allow them in my personal vehicles.

Not true. Anymore.

For starters a properly working air bag system will help prevent injury, even if you are wearing glasses. Second gen systems have dual stage deployment, and can deploy only one stage for lighter passengers, people with a forward seat position, or if you aren't wearing your seat belt.

The original systems, which were very very primitive compared to modern ones, did cause more injuries than they prevented. The same is true of current systems if you are stupid enough to buckle your seat belt behind your back which makes the computer see a +150 Lb person who is properly restrained, instead of one who is going to go flying.

The buckle sensor is a simple contact switch, but make sure that you have one that is working properly. If the computer sees a buckled belt and you aren't wearing it, or it isn't buckled, you will get full air bag deployment, and that will not be good for your face (prolly not good for your neck, spine, or other organs housed in the vicinity of your face).

If you are using a harness then you will have some other issues to overcome. There are sensors and pretensioners that look at how tight your seat belt is and then tries to load up the tension on the belt when it senses a crash.

This topic came up a while back and it was suggested that the OP install the new seats on the original tracks. This leaves the airbag system intact and should work with pretty much all aftermarket seats.
 
Not true. Anymore.

For starters a properly working air bag system will help prevent injury, even if you are wearing glasses. Second gen systems have dual stage deployment, and can deploy only one stage for lighter passengers, people with a forward seat position, or if you aren't wearing your seat belt.

The original systems, which were very very primitive compared to modern ones, did cause more injuries than they prevented. The same is true of current systems if you are stupid enough to buckle your seat belt behind your back which makes the computer see a +150 Lb person who is properly restrained, instead of one who is going to go flying.

The buckle sensor is a simple contact switch, but make sure that you have one that is working properly. If the computer sees a buckled belt and you aren't wearing it, or it isn't buckled, you will get full air bag deployment, and that will not be good for your face (prolly not good for your neck, spine, or other organs housed in the vicinity of your face).

If you are using a harness then you will have some other issues to overcome. There are sensors and pretensioners that look at how tight your seat belt is and then tries to load up the tension on the belt when it senses a crash.

This topic came up a while back and it was suggested that the OP install the new seats on the original tracks. This leaves the airbag system intact and should work with pretty much all aftermarket seats.

i tried, but the problem with my seats IS the bracket. it sits to high, and my heads in the roof 99% of the time. im not doing a racing harness, just gonna bolt a buckle to the seat bracket i build. just wondering if its ok to bypass the plug going to the existing buckle. :icon_confused:
 
Just some good advice...if you are not sure how to install them so you and your passenger are not at risk of injury or death.....take it to a pro!!!! Just 'cause you want to save a few bucks is not worth taking a life or making one useless. I have lost a few friends over makeshift seat belts!!!! I will always remember them and what happened as well.


Be safe, Bro!!!!!! Post pics when you get it all done!!!
 
Just some good advice...if you are not sure how to install them so you and your passenger are not at risk of injury or death.....take it to a pro!!!! Just 'cause you want to save a few bucks is not worth taking a life or making one useless. I have lost a few friends over makeshift seat belts!!!! I will always remember them and what happened as well.


Be safe, Bro!!!!!! Post pics when you get it all done!!!



the problem is the shops wont touch it. they dont want to be held liable if it fails.
 
the problem is the shops wont touch it. they dont want to be held liable if it fails.

Darn...I am surprised about that. A pro shop (one that fabricates race cars and off road vehicles) should want to help out...but then again...since the recession started so many people are law suit happy!!!!

Well..... some time back I built my little sister a super nice Baja Buggy out of her '69 super beetle and I added a race belt safety harness form RJS. It came out great. I took it to a fab shop so the belts were bolted in correctly and plates were welded to the bottom of the frame to attach the brackets. It was done right.


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