Either of you going to do chinamans with rmftc this saturday? Ill definately be there for the run and considered camping friday, saturday or both. And I got an empty seat....
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Project: Moose-Knuckle
- Thread starter LittleBigFoot
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I'm down if my boss pays me today or tomorrow.if not I'll have to ride along with you if that's cool?
I had some friends come to town unexpectedly. Might miss the run, dont know yet.
So not a lot has happened. But I have some good news.
It looks like the 6/4 ton axles are going to happen. I have no clue what type of axles they actually are. They were in 1.5 ton dodge 6x6's. These are the front and very rear axles. Really f'n wide, and geared to 4.88 already.
Bummer is they're passenger side drop.
So I'm thinking of flipping the axle, swapping the knuckles to the once original sides, and making a catch on the pinion that sprays oil. I read about it on pirate being used for some portal 9" axles with flipped 3rd members. Wicked easy. 2 holes and some scrap metal.
Front and rear are drum brakes, but big ass drum brakes. I have no clue in hell how I could do a disk conversion yet, but I think running a master cylender from a full size van would push enough juice to stop me.
Oh, I'm sellin off some old music equipment in hopes to pick up a tow rig. I'll figure that out.
Mitch and I pulled another spring form the front pack today. The leaf spring rate calculators say I'm at 60.05 pound spring rate. I don't know if that's total, not plausible, or per leaf.
If it's per leaf I'm at 240 LBS a side. That's like wrangler shit right there. Im flexin her out tomorrow to see any gained flex.
Over and out
It looks like the 6/4 ton axles are going to happen. I have no clue what type of axles they actually are. They were in 1.5 ton dodge 6x6's. These are the front and very rear axles. Really f'n wide, and geared to 4.88 already.
Bummer is they're passenger side drop.
So I'm thinking of flipping the axle, swapping the knuckles to the once original sides, and making a catch on the pinion that sprays oil. I read about it on pirate being used for some portal 9" axles with flipped 3rd members. Wicked easy. 2 holes and some scrap metal.
Front and rear are drum brakes, but big ass drum brakes. I have no clue in hell how I could do a disk conversion yet, but I think running a master cylender from a full size van would push enough juice to stop me.
Oh, I'm sellin off some old music equipment in hopes to pick up a tow rig. I'll figure that out.
Mitch and I pulled another spring form the front pack today. The leaf spring rate calculators say I'm at 60.05 pound spring rate. I don't know if that's total, not plausible, or per leaf.
If it's per leaf I'm at 240 LBS a side. That's like wrangler shit right there. Im flexin her out tomorrow to see any gained flex.
Over and out
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Hmm thats going to be alot of work...you need dana 60s.
Actually it would be cool to see something different, if you are up for the whole conversion. Sounds like it would be pretty involved to me.
Actually it would be cool to see something different, if you are up for the whole conversion. Sounds like it would be pretty involved to me.
do you have enough wheelbase to add a divorce-mounted, passenger side drop transfer case behind the stock one?
Seems like the divorced t case or would be the best bet or If youve got the tooling its much easier to cut the tubes give yourself the drop you want and do a nice axle truss that will avoid the problems that you would incur flipping the axle
Bronco_Chuck
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personaly i would go with something like rule breaker did on his van and make an adaptor for a differnt trans and swap something out of an older truck into it. that way it would be easy to put a passenger drop t case into it plus you get the possability of a stronger trans in it. just my .02
The entire axle housing is one piece, or from what i can tell it is.
I could cut, swap, and sleeve the tubes.
I think I'll get it all set up and then just deal with the T case later. I've got a deal on a manual 1350, thinkin of makin a doubler for pass drop, and just runnin open manifolds.
I could cut, swap, and sleeve the tubes.
I think I'll get it all set up and then just deal with the T case later. I've got a deal on a manual 1350, thinkin of makin a doubler for pass drop, and just runnin open manifolds.
Started building a new bumper. Here's the run down:
Main piece is 3/8" C
All tubes are 1.5" OD .250 wall hrew
Lights are baja cheapos
2" receiver hitch
Bent with a tube kinker and a torch
Knotched with a pos harbor frieght knotcher
Built by MooseKnuckle Fab and Off Road and beer.
Still have to finish the skid plate, paint it, fab brackets to the frame, bolt up the D rings, but it's close enough to post a pic of.
The vertical posts off the C comp for the 3" body lift, and tie the horizontal tube around the fenders. These will eventuall be filled with bar and spot welded and exteded to tie into the sliders, then rear bumper. Then the cage. Yes.
Main piece is 3/8" C
All tubes are 1.5" OD .250 wall hrew
Lights are baja cheapos
2" receiver hitch
Bent with a tube kinker and a torch
Knotched with a pos harbor frieght knotcher
Built by MooseKnuckle Fab and Off Road and beer.
Still have to finish the skid plate, paint it, fab brackets to the frame, bolt up the D rings, but it's close enough to post a pic of.
The vertical posts off the C comp for the 3" body lift, and tie the horizontal tube around the fenders. These will eventuall be filled with bar and spot welded and exteded to tie into the sliders, then rear bumper. Then the cage. Yes.
thats gotta be heavy with .25 tube, shouldnt have problems with it breaking
It's pretty stout. I'm likin it. Just need the D rings but it's on and lookin good. My license plate is just held on with bailing wire but what ever. I was out of zip ties.
As far as the axles go, I'm lookin at runnin a different trans and T case like suggested. Lookin for a manual with a deep as hell first gear and a t case or two with some nice gear reduction.
I got the manuals for the trucks these axles came from. It's actually quoted on the cover that it's treason to own these unless i'm in the service. Tee hee. As of 1943. My grandpa rode in one of these and now the axles will be under my truck 66 years later.
I'm in the process of finding a car to DD so I can get to work while swappin in a new trans. Too bad no one makes an adaptor from the 4r44e to a different T case. Or I could clock the hell out of my 1354. Eh.
The axles are in the long run, but tomorrow I'm pickin up some more tube for sliders.
As far as the axles go, I'm lookin at runnin a different trans and T case like suggested. Lookin for a manual with a deep as hell first gear and a t case or two with some nice gear reduction.
I got the manuals for the trucks these axles came from. It's actually quoted on the cover that it's treason to own these unless i'm in the service. Tee hee. As of 1943. My grandpa rode in one of these and now the axles will be under my truck 66 years later.
I'm in the process of finding a car to DD so I can get to work while swappin in a new trans. Too bad no one makes an adaptor from the 4r44e to a different T case. Or I could clock the hell out of my 1354. Eh.
The axles are in the long run, but tomorrow I'm pickin up some more tube for sliders.
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Rinny650
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Sounds like you need an adapter to a NP435 or maybe a T18 or T19
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I would first off make sure you're not too wide after wheels and tires. There are width restrictions in some places...seems like I was reading about an F150 that somebody built that ended up being too wide, and he was only running 60's with 44's. He did have wheels with 0 backspacing though.
Hey man, if you're interested, I have a 2wd NP435 that you could use with a divorced t-case and an adapter like the one Rulebreaker built.
Hey man, if you're interested, I have a 2wd NP435 that you could use with a divorced t-case and an adapter like the one Rulebreaker built.
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