oh...my....god IM IN LOVE

[99ranger4x4]

ive been looking into this. ive got it figured out lol. 4BTA cummins along with an turbo 400 tranny and a 8.8 31 spline axle. im gunna put into a 95-97 ranger with a 4inch suspension lift. right now im looking for the donor frito lay truck....once i get the donor truck ill start a build thread. that truck on youtube is puttin out 180 or so HP and 300 ft lbs of torque i think. it is in this months diesel power magazine. i think i can do this whole setup for $7k. what do you guys think

 

[dburton07]

do it. i almost bought a box truck with the 4bt that i found on craigs list, wanted 2000 for it

 

[wahlstrom1]

Already a step ahead of you guys....stored away at my parents place right now;

-01' 4BTA, new turbo, reworked injectors, CPL 2109'
-116HP @2500RPM, 300 ftlbs @1800RPM STOCK
-SMF ZF tranny, with NP205

I'm workin on losing some weight upfront on the truck as I type this, and I'll keep a build thread updated whenever I get the project rolling....

-andrew

 

[Rammunition360]

actual edge evolution chips add 100hp to a ford powerstoke or cummins and the black smoke is not unburnt fuel and it isnt unhealthy... not to mention newer deisels get 20mpg easy with a programmer so :black smoke, more mpg, more horse power...buy a diesel...

 

[wahlstrom1]

So...as a Heavy Equip Mechanic, I have to ask, not that I'm against it but if the black smoke isn't fuel what is it?

Black- Heated unburnt fuel
White- Raw fuel or coolant/water
Blue- Oil

-andrew

 

[Rammunition360]

well im sure its from the "burning" of fuel...but i didnt say it wasnt fuel...around here in farm country we call the black smoke "rollin' coal" the more you got it the better...my buddys truck is a 600 plus hp 7.3 powerstroke turbo diesiel and it rolls a good bit of coal...he also has a nice loud turbo haha

 

[84projectFORD]

So...as a Heavy Equip Mechanic, I have to ask, not that I'm against it but if the black smoke isn't fuel what is it?

Black- Heated unburnt fuel
White- Raw fuel or coolant/water
Blue- Oil

-andrew

And grey- runnin lean

lol well thats what mine does when the fuel filter is plugged, i step on her and the filter runs out of fuel inside haha. its a really bad feelin

 

[dburton07]

actual edge evolution chips add 100hp to a ford powerstoke or cummins and the black smoke is not unburnt fuel and it isnt unhealthy... not to mention newer deisels get 20mpg easy with a programmer so :black smoke, more mpg, more horse power...buy a diesel...

my friends durtymax is gettin 21mpg......my ranger gets 17 at best

hes got a 4" exhaust, power pup tuner i think, and a K&N, beastly thing i tell you..not to mention hes makin his own biodeisel....lucky bastard

 

[fordwheelinman]

:black smoke, more mpg, more horse power...buy a diesel...

If one interprets this exactly as you have it written, it would have one believe that black smoke means more mpg, and more horsepower. Now under this assumption, why dont ALL diesel engines, in ALL applications smoke like that ALL the time. I mean it would only make sense. Why do production diesle pickups not smoke from the factory, why is it that they dont start throwing such black smoke until the have been tweaked, with fuel pressure bump ups? Why is it that PB's, Freightliners, Macks, and the like, only throw billowous clouds of black smoke under heavy throttle situations, such as going through the first 6 or 7 gears, when loaded, or when going up hill? Why is it that they do not smoke under cruising conditions? Why when in a shop with a diesel powerd truck, producing coulds of black smoke, do you smell amounts of unburnt fuel?

 

[jeffnvegas]

lots of modifications. i looked into it and for about 25k you might get er done!

 

[TrucksGetDirty]

EW.

Only:
Dodge Cummins FTW.

 

[Will]

When I was in school my stoner friends carved FTW in their arms with knife blades and it meant **** The World. I suppose it means something different in net-speak.

New road tractors do not smoke--ever. In fact, it would have to be about ten years old to smoke. Or be in poor condition.

Black smoke is definately excessive fuel. Doesn't hurt anything, but it isn't necessary. A little black smoke lets you know all of the available air is being used. A lot of black smoke is for show--and it's obnoxious.

My truck has a mechanical injection system. In the winter when the air is dense it almost never smokes, even under full power. On a hot summer day it can smoke quite a bit. New electronic trucks should never smoke unless they are tampered with.

Mind you, a crewcab diesel whipping ass on a bunch of Mustangs is cool. As long as they change the tuning for the street afterwards. Oh, wait. That diesel doesn't smoke. Hmmm.

 

[compleckz]

i just got back from a cross country road trip, and at high elevation (i live at 450', so anything is high to me)-- the diesel trucks smoked like crazy under load, and so did the jetta tdi i was driving.. we drove as high as 9666', good times

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

New road tractors do not smoke--ever. In fact, it would have to be about ten years old to smoke. Or be in poor condition.

I have noted a lot more smoking trucks / soot stained trailers than there have been for a long time. I was wondering if it had something to do with the economy maybe or what the deal was. It used to be rare around here to see a trailer with the front corner stained, no I would say more than half are.

If you pull a load hard with the smokescrew turned to far you can melt the engine down.

 

[84projectFORD]

my friends durtymax is gettin 21mpg......my ranger gets 17 at best

hes got a 4" exhaust, power pup tuner i think, and a K&N, beastly thing i tell you..not to mention hes makin his own biodeisel....lucky bastard

well look at it this way. oil changes cost twice as much as your truck since his takes 10 qts and his diesel cost almost a dollar more than your gas. your winning unless he is somehow getting a ungodly number of over 30 mpg.

black smoke is a easy programming way of acheiving high horsepower/ torque numbers in diesel. teh programmers find ways of increasing fuel pressure and increase the time the injector is open while changing some timing. If you look at a Banks kit, all there kits make the truck NOT smoke while still achieving high hp/tq numbers but they have almost hit a peak as far as a stock engine goes for high hp/tq, from there you need to increase your fuel to gain more power. black smoke is unburnt fuel so to speak but it is very hard and very time consuming to make a diesel not blow black smoke and still get high numbers. this will not increase mpg, its the opposite as far as you constantly blowing black smoke and at a certain point the dumping more fuel in approch does not work anymore as a cylinder can only hold and burn so much.

now late 07 chevys, 08 fords, and 08 dodges i believe will not blow black smoke due to the DPF filter that is now required on all new fatory manufactured trucks (along with other emissions equipment). this filter heats to 1200 to 2000 degrees to burn all the remaining "soot". this is also why almost all diesel fuel pumps are now only 15 ppm of "soot" instead of the 500 ppm that it use to be.