My truck looks like it was painted by Fred Sanford

[Jim Oaks]

A FISH EYED FOOL!!

Damn it.

I painted the white on TRS-2 Saturday. I quickly noticed fisheyes. I didn't have any fisheye eliminator and really don't know why I was getting them because I wiped the truck down with a wax and grease remover I bought when I bought the paint. I noticed that as I added coats of paint it pretty much covered them up.

Today I painted the blue. I wiped it down again to make sure I didn't get any fisheyes. I got more fisheyes in the blue than the white, and these didn't go away when I shot back over them!

I was going to try and wetsand and buff it, but I'm think I may be better off wetsanding it to smooth it out and reshoot the blue with some fisheye eliminator.

I'm using Nason Ful-Thane paint.

Never had this happen to me before.

It's very annoying.

 

[snake]

Could it be a reaction to the primer? I had that happen once, wasn't compatible somehow...

 

[Jim Oaks]

IDK. It was Nason Ful-Seal Acrylic Sealer.

 

[MUDDING B-3000]

i hate when paint fish eyes or blisters it happened to my on my project truck an a similar thing happened to me tonight i was fiberglassing my fenders an went to paint it when it was all done an a bunch of the fiberglass let loose an chipped off so i had have to redo the whole fender. its the most frustrating thing

 

[GoodOld85BlueBalls]

I always tend to get fish heads when I paint. Is that because I breathe the fumes?

 

[phatdaddy]

I never get that with the rattle can jobs I do....

 

[Jay FX4]

Any chance the first coat was just a bit too heavy?

 

[JohnnyU]

Where's Lee? He'd be able to tell you what's up right away.

 

[Doom's Day Custom]

Fish Eyes look like little craters on the moon where the paint pulls away from the center. (Looks well, like a fish eye and hence the name). Fish eyes occur immediately upon spraying. Fish eyes are caused by contamination of the surface you are spraying. Water, oil and silicone are the three major culprits. Also, if you leave the wax and grease remover on too long before wiping it off, it can cause fisheyes. When you wetsand out imperfections in the basecoat, sometimes there will be traces of water left causing the problem. To be honest, we had jobs where the fish eyes occurred and we had no idea what caused them as we could find no rhyme or reason for it.

If we had a job that fish eyed, we would start over again by washing off the paint with automotive lacquer thinner. Once the surface fish eyes, the paint should be removed as something has contaminated the surface. You don't want to just sand down the surface and repaint as the problem will usually not go away. In all my years, we never found the paint or clearcoat itself to be the problem as often we would use the exact same paint and clearcoat again without difficulty. We started to think perhaps some truck was driving by spraying something with silicon in it as often we just could not come up with a reason for it!


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[Captain Ledd]

I'm not a painter, but I did some work for a guy that made industrial filter bags, some for painting.

Apparently silicon will really screw paint up and fish eye it badly. He asked me if I had put silicone (waterproof spray stuff) my jacket because even tiny little particles coming off it would screw it up. I think it can be in some rubber gloves as well (even latex ones).