M5R1 Steel Rear Bearing Retainer?

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I need to get another rear bearing retainer for my 92 Explorer because it has worn away.

I have an old TRS posting from astron called "M5R1 problems and solutions" dated Mar 3 2007. In reference to the mainshaft and countershaft rear bearing retainer plate he states "the original plates were made from aluminum, we have made them from steel which seems to last much longer".

I would like to know if i can buy some of these "plates", if so where can I get them? Is it possible that the M5OD R1HD already has these?

 

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I would like to elaborate on my original posting.

I had "tightened up" the main and counter shafts in my 2.3 Turbo T5 transmission in the past using advice I had gotten from a transmission expert. I set the mainshaft with .0015 crush and the countershaft with .001 crush, both the the main and countershafts in this World Class T5 have "taper" bearings on them. This tightening stopped the transmission coming out of fifth gear on its own and eliminated a vibration I had been hunting down for ages (replaced rear axle carrier and pinion bearings, removed damper from, and rebalanced, the driveshaft and had taken the transmission apart previously before fully understanding the proper way to measure the shaft endplay).

I have tightened the shaft endplay twice on my M5OD R1 in my 1992 Explorer, once when I was replacing the hydraulic slave cylinder and once when I had to replace a countershaft bearing. Each time I did so I set it to the factory recommended .002". I am now replacing the clutch and decided to do it once more. I have measured the clearances and the mainshaft has .012" play and the countershaft has .010 play. I would like to set the mainshaft to .002 crush and the countershaft to zero since, it has a roller as opposed to a taper bearing. I have bought the appropriate factory shims in the past, but the largest factory shim I can buy for the countershaft would give me .002" play.

Assuming that the rear bearing retainer was my problem I created the first post asking to get a steel rear bearing retainer. I took the bearing retainer out this afternoon and it is worn .012" at the output shaft bearing but not at all at the countershaft bearing.

I am puzzled, I can only assume that I will need to replace both of the countershaft bearings to reduce the excessive clearance. I didn't see a wear step on the front bearing retainer.

This transmission now has 309,000 kilometers on it and I have used Redline MTL in it since 100,000 Kms (I bought it used).

I would still be interested in a steel rear bearing retainer to replace the one in my 2002 Explorer M5OD.

 

[Evan]

I would like to elaborate on my original posting.

I had "tightened up" the main and counter shafts in my 2.3 Turbo T5 transmission in the past using advice I had gotten from a transmission expert. I set the mainshaft with .0015 crush and the countershaft with .001 crush, both the the main and countershafts in this World Class T5 have "taper" bearings on them. This tightening stopped the transmission coming out of fifth gear on its own and eliminated a vibration I had been hunting down for ages (replaced rear axle carrier and pinion bearings, removed damper from, and rebalanced, the driveshaft and had taken the transmission apart previously before fully understanding the proper way to measure the shaft endplay).

I have tightened the shaft endplay twice on my M5OD R1 in my 1992 Explorer, once when I was replacing the hydraulic slave cylinder and once when I had to replace a countershaft bearing. Each time I did so I set it to the factory recommended .002". I am now replacing the clutch and decided to do it once more. I have measured the clearances and the mainshaft has .012" play and the countershaft has .010 play. I would like to set the mainshaft to .002 crush and the countershaft to zero since, it has a roller as opposed to a taper bearing. I have bought the appropriate factory shims in the past, but the largest factory shim I can buy for the countershaft would give me .002" play.

Assuming that the rear bearing retainer was my problem I created the first post asking to get a steel rear bearing retainer. I took the bearing retainer out this afternoon and it is worn .012" at the output shaft bearing but not at all at the countershaft bearing.

I am puzzled, I can only assume that I will need to replace both of the countershaft bearings to reduce the excessive clearance. I didn't see a wear step on the front bearing retainer.

This transmission now has 309,000 kilometers on it and I have used Redline MTL in it since 100,000 Kms (I bought it used).

I would still be interested in a steel rear bearing retainer to replace the one in my 2002 Explorer M5OD.

Redline MTL is not the correct fluid for the M5OD-R1. You should be running ATF.

 

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Correction

I used Redline ATF.