loud noise frim engine, oil pump?

[cbsremix]

I was driving down the freeway when I started to notice my oil presure was low at the some time my motor was making a chlicking nosie not like a rod but like a rocker arm, This happen once when I got the truck smog two weeks ago, could it be my oil pump?

 

[IMenriched]

I was driving down the freeway when I started to notice my oil presure was low at the some time my motor was making a chlicking nosie not like a rod but like a rocker arm, This happen once when I got the truck smog two weeks ago, could it be my oil pump?

Might be a collaping oil filter....change oil filter & see if things improve.

2.9's tend to clatter a bit on idle exspecialy warm.

also these sending units also tend not to very accurate ....most will swap out for a mechnical oil pressure guage for more reliable feedback.

 

[cbsremix]

thanks lot I will change out the oil filter this weekend all thou it looks like new I will post up the results

 

[cbsremix]

no still really loud.

 

[IMenriched]

no still really loud.

rats
well....if you're really interested to know put a mechnical oil pressure guage on it even if temporary. But it will prolly tell you that you're under 10psi

If your over 10psi or there abouts at idle and warm...there is hope that engine isn't compeletly lost. most likely, the cam bearings are past life expectancy. depending on how many miles are on this engine and care given.

Is it a heavy tudd or more clattery valve noise??

More valve noise...you may be get by with removing the valve covers & remove the rocker assembly, clean it up, make sure the rocker shaft shaft/tube is clean and reinstall...readjust valves. maybe a collapsed lifter.

considering that this is a sudden noise event (SNE), might want to just redo/complete valve job on the heads and double check lifters to see some are collapsed.

 

[cbsremix]

wow really, so I was way off when I thought the oil pump went out?

 

[IMenriched]

wow really, so I was way off when I thought the oil pump went out?

Sorry, just when sudden noise is envolved...it ussually isn't too good, hints of something catastrophic .

Can you issolate where the noise is coming from...left side?? right side?? front , or back or the bottom??

there are those who will tell you that these are tough little engines and they are for the most part.

Just depends on how much you are willing to do...?? how much $$$'s you're willing put into it. How curious you really are to find out what is going on.

If you like the truck and want to keep it, maybe the best bet would be to get a running engine and swap it out.

or jst continue to drive it as is until it completely gernaids

 

[cbsremix]

when this happen it was form the driver side I would say mid engine, but today when I checked again, there was no noise and the oil presure was at normal, Im really lost what about the oil pump screen?

 

[IMenriched]

when this happen it was form the driver side I would say mid engine, but today when I checked again, there was no noise and the oil presure was at normal, Im really lost what about the oil pump screen?

I might be a lifter/lifters that is worn out...or what ever was restricting flow has dislodged

did you change oil too with the filter??

If you're up for it...you certainly can try changing the oil pump. a good chiltion or shop repair manual is also a good thing to get. Sorry if I seem to be throwing a wet blanket on your project.

It is best to determine where the noise is coming from 1st...if it high on the engine, then it might be a valve train issue. and really see what kind of oil pressure is there. If Oil pressure is above 10psi warm and 30psi cold. there is hope. you can try a oil flush and change oil & filter in fairly rapidly a couple of times, with in 200 miles. there again knowing what oil pressure (mechnical guage) is critical, so you can monitor how things are doing.

Oil pump screen could be plugged that is true....If the oil pump screen and pick tube, (& is part of the oil pump) & if they have been restricting flow that much....well there is a good chance that just putting a new pump on won't cure what you're expereincing...not to say it won't or couldn't help. Just that the odds are not in your favor to eliminated the issue. Even if it is driveable after the oil pump has been done and say it runs pretty well. Irreversable wear has been done to other critial componets. What I'm trying to say is oil pumps and pickup screens don't plug up over night. Unless one can point to insident, like I ran over something, and smacked the oil pan, or ran a fence post thru the oil pan . then, yeah, odds are in your favor.

 

[AllanD]

it's a common misconception that a lack of oil pressure is due to a bad oil pump

The question people always ask is "why isn't the pump making pressure?"
instead of understanding that pressure is a symptom (good or bad) to
resistance against the flow of the fluid being pumped.

the question that people should be asking is not why they have a "pressure problem", but where is the pressure/flow going...

In your case it's fairly obvious that the oil isn't going where it's supposed
to, but wherever it's going it's a very bad sign.

For today, just today, whatever your name really is you are honorarily "Jim"

Just so I can say: "It's dead Jim!"

Sorry, I wish I had better things to tell you, but that engine is gotta come out
and frankly it's probably not worth putting back together if you do take it apart to determine what went wrong inside.

AD

 

[cbsremix]

I pulled the oil pan off to today and found I chunck of the timing chain guide. I did repalce the oil pump, the oil screen oil and oil filter next step is to change out the guide, what may have cause this?

 

[IMenriched]

Old age...maybe something from a past repair, prior to your owning it??

double check end thrust of crank shaft and cam shaft ...you'll need a dial indicator for this.

A new guide will come with a timing gear and chain set, best to change everything, not just the guide.

 

[rackridge]

hellow all , I have a 1990 ranger w/a 2.9 v6 . been seeing the advice on noisy valve train,the motor is ok until warm, then sounds like a diesel.gauge shows good pressure,
seems to be an oiling prob,gona try the trans fluid in the oil to flush, also saw the cam thrush recomendation,is this hard to do filp that plate and where is it located.The truck has high miles but still works well.The truck still has times it is not noisy.Is there any hope! thanks.........

 

[rackridge]

it's a common misconception that a lack of oil pressure is due to a bad oil pump

The question people always ask is "why isn't the pump making pressure?"
instead of understanding that pressure is a symptom (good or bad) to
resistance against the flow of the fluid being pumped.

the question that people should be asking is not why they have a "pressure problem", but where is the pressure/flow going...

In your case it's fairly obvious that the oil isn't going where it's supposed
to, but wherever it's going it's a very bad sign.

For today, just today, whatever your name really is you are honorarily "Jim"

Just so I can say: "It's dead Jim!"

Sorry, I wish I had better things to tell you, but that engine is gotta come out
and frankly it's probably not worth putting back together if you do take it apart to determine what went wrong inside.

AD

hi AllanD, May I ask you a queston reguarding a 2,6 engine I have in a 1990 ranger

 

[rackridge]

Allan not sure how to get reply ,im a new member ,does it get posted or email my email is harry@akronprecision.com thanks for your time!!!!!!!!!!