Lost all my oil on 2 seconds - like an oil bomb went off

[TwoWhels]

Fram?? There you go...junk

 

[loneranger48]

i have used fram oil filters for 3 years now on a variety of vehicles ranging from 77 novas to 2wd toyotas to hondas and rangers and have never had a problem but i would call fram and complain and maybe get some free stuff out of the deal for the time,money and effort they caused you lol

 

[kunar]

glad you figured it out...

also, fram=junk. but you already knew that.

 

[arineod]

Well, figured that part out. Now it seems that the oil pan is leaking or something else from that area, not the oil filter. Drove it for a while, seemed like the oil gauge went 3/4 and then dropped tro 1/4 and oil started to leak from somewhere else. Maybe the compression got so high it needed to find a way out? Hell, I don't know. Seems to run fine otherwise.

I will have to get it looked at to track down the new leak and possible cause if it is something else that will keep causing a leak. Very frustrating. This leak looks like it is near the oil filter and the oil runs down the oil pan rear edge along the bolts edge/lip of oil pan are and then drips down.

I will look at the gasket between the oil pump and the block. To get to that, how do I go about it? do I have to completely remove the oil pan and if so, looks like a huge pain in the arse! Do you have to lift the engine up a bit for that?

Thanks guys

 

[Shran]

Well, figured that part out. Now it seems that the oil pan is leaking or something else from that area, not the oil filter. Drove it for a while, seemed like the oil gauge went 3/4 and then dropped tro 1/4 and oil started to leak from somewhere else. Maybe the compression got so high it needed to find a way out? Hell, I don't know. Seems to run fine otherwise.

I will have to get it looked at to track down the new leak and possible cause if it is something else that will keep causing a leak. Very frustrating. This leak looks like it is near the oil filter and the oil runs down the oil pan rear edge along the bolts edge/lip of oil pan are and then drips down.

I will look at the gasket between the oil pump and the block. To get to that, how do I go about it? do I have to completely remove the oil pan and if so, looks like a huge pain in the arse! Do you have to lift the engine up a bit for that?

Thanks guys

The oil pump is inside the pan and it probably isn't your problem. I would look at either valve cover gaskets or oil pan gasket.

Is it the stock oil gauge that you're looking at? If so those are for oil pressure, not oil level....and they are never accurate. I don't really know why they even bothered putting them in there.

 

[arineod]

Yeah, it is the stock one. Never put any faith into it but figured it might be worth mentioning. I will check the valve covers again, I replaced them last week with the good felpro ones but there was a corner on the back side of the valve cover (passenger side) that had a bolt that only caught a few threads when I put it in. Didn't leak any after that but who knows maybe it is now. Will have to tap it and get a new bolt just to be sure. Passenger side valve cover is much easier anyhow.

Will run it and check again, then report back.

 

[ryan]

I believe it was a Fram filter

that happened to me as well - same problem, same filter

the filter failed spectacularly - it wasn't double gasketed. just a bad filter. no post-failure engine problems, but it happened while i was still on the driveway

 

[arineod]

that happened to me as well - same problem, same filter

the filter failed spectacularly - it wasn't double gasketed. just a bad filter. no post-failure engine problems, but it happened while i was still on the driveway

I will never by Fram oil filters again. Glad you caught it in the driveway! Driving down the highway would surely cause some damage by the time you stopped. I was lucky that I stopped immediately and didn't think twice about towing it back to the house. If I had tried to drive it, I would have destroyed my engine! $6 oil filter could have turned into a lot of money and still might.

 

[pocket-rocket]

You mean I'm not the only nuts one not wanting to run a Fram on here besides the other small handful of people in this thread?

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30606

 

[Ranger44]

Maybe excessive crank case pressure.

How plugged is your PVC valve?

 

[arineod]

I think it was a coolant leak that mixed with the excess oil still left over from the Fram explosion. I see coolant coming down the front side of the block. Looks like it is coming from the area behind the thermostat but I can't be sure if it is the thermostat or not. Too far back to be the water pump and not loosing a ton of coolant. is there anything else besides the thermostat area that could be leaking?

must be the intake manifold

 

[dangerranger83]

Fram filters have been used on all my families vehicles for years and never had a problem. Had problems with other ones leaking but never had a Fram leak on us yet.

 

[dirtsquirt]

Fram filters have been used on all my families vehicles for years and never had a problem. Had problems with other ones leaking but never had a Fram leak on us yet.

it's not a leak that is the problem the SOB'S blow holes like it's been shot with a 357 mag.. $60,000 motor replacment in a 385 excavator over a fram filiter...

 

[Hahnsb2]

IIRC, Totalled had 3 Fram filters blow up on him...

 

[dangerranger83]

I was just saying that we've never had a problem. How the hell do ypu blow a hole in a fliter anyways, what would cause that?