Lifting my 4x4

[Edgefevah]

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OK everyone so this here is my first 4x4. Seeing as it is a TTB D35 front axle I am unsure of where to start as far as lifts go. my younger brother had a ttb truck but opted to switch to a SAS swap instead of doing somthing with his ttb. I like begin different and want to lift my truck with the stoic front axle and see how far i get. so with that I have been surfing this forum for the last couple days trying to find as many builds and info pages as I could to gain a better idea of what i am getting myself into. although this info has helped me to gain some knowledge on the axle I still have some questions

1, FOr those of you who lifted their TTB axles what would be the best piece of advice you'd give to a new guy like myself?

2, I know the PPI s a thing to look for she ding a lit so what would you suggest for a truck this size (4.0L, std cab)?

3, I am wanting to keep this truck as a daily driver till can get a second vehicle so I would like to keep the lift at or below 4inches. what is your opinion on the coilspacers?

Its got 31x10.5x15's under it already.

Thanks, Jason

 

[bigtruck94]

Rough country sells some good kits. You could either get a 4 inch lift or a leveling kit. I personally like the leveling kit because if it's your daily driver, It not only gives you a small lift, but it gives your truck a nice stance in the front.

 

[whissiswheelin]

I have a 4 inch lift and 33 inch tires and hate the constant fender rubbing when i hit a small bump, as well my turning radius sucks cuz of the stock radius arms and tires rub. it is my daily driver and once you get used to the body roll its doesnt handle horrible at highway speed or during abrupt maneuvers. my advice is to build what you can and buy the rest or piece together a kit yourself. I personally would like a couple more inches of lift(body or otherwise) and to change the old school plate style ttb bracket with the modern style so that I can get rid of those massive 6" bump stops that are on my truck. Also aftermarket stlye radius arms that are kinked for better steering.

 

[bobbywalter]

hmmm...


i have worked on shit tons of ttbs....rangers to f250's and theres been many changes to recommendations over the last 25 years of dicking around with them for regular wheelers and raod going rigs. i dont have as much experience with the desert racing end....



if ...or rather when i build another ttb ranger its going to be a fawking monster bastard.



i like, and am spoiled to full width now.

so theres many options.


fortunately these days we realize you can easily bolt in a d44 ttb with a few of the major company bolt on setups with some minor modifications to their brackets. its not perfect, but workable for a medium shade tree weeked warrior type of person.... and they make a rcv setup for that ttb 44 application so it will be a brutally strong alternative to a solid axle. you can even go 35 spline inner 30 spline outer if you opt for that.

joel h, or copy cat or what ever he has for a name these days was selling some brackets that allow you to run either the d35 or d44 axle. and its cheap too, and even better his shit is brutally effective. he dont fawk around when he designs things. the parts he made for my truck were the strongest things on my rig. and i tested them hard and all it got me was a pile of bent of d35 beams and frame damage.

not sure if he is still selling them but maybe sniff around the desert sites for him.

even simply just to lift your 35, his stuff or skyjacker/duff with some sort of super runner steering style of system goes a long way to making a awesome ttb machine you can take anywhere and fare well enough to be respected if you have the balls to push stuff to the line.

for the most part on this board we are weekend trail guys with many doing some serious stuff.

4x4 junkie has compiled some data i am sure you found some of it searching, keep searching. he will chime in anyway eventually.

OK everyone so this here is my first 4x4. Seeing as it is a TTB D35 front axle I am unsure of where to start as far as lifts go. my younger brother had a ttb truck but opted to switch to a SAS swap instead of doing somthing with his ttb. I like begin different and want to lift my truck with the stoic front axle and see how far i get. so with that I have been surfing this forum for the last couple days trying to find as many builds and info pages as I could to gain a better idea of what i am getting myself into. although this info has helped me to gain some knowledge on the axle I still have some questions

1, FOr those of you who lifted their TTB axles what would be the best piece of advice you'd give to a new guy like myself?

2, I know the PPI s a thing to look for she ding a lit so what would you suggest for a truck this size (4.0L, std cab)?

3, I am wanting to keep this truck as a daily driver till can get a second vehicle so I would like to keep the lift at or below 4inches. what is your opinion on the coilspacers?

Thanks, Jason

what tire you want to run?

its key.

i would just cut out the fenders or buys aftermarket fenders with some 2 in spacers and run 33's till you figure out exactly what you want.

what kind of wheeling you like to do is another key...

this will help with advice. if you want 38's even just for trail use you need to step to a 44 or 44 outers....

if you want to roll on 35's daily you need to regear....but dont waste money on gears and lockers if you need to upgrade axles eventually...see where i am going?

 

[Edgefevah]

AS of right now I have 31x10.5x15 tires on good wranglers. I dont plan on running tires that are any bigger till I decide on what I want to do with the truck long term.
As far as wheeling nothing too crazy, mud holes, and trails. I am part of a mudding group and have yet to join them on a trip but i know they hit some good trails. definitely stuff this truck is capable of, but with a bit more lift I wouldnt have to push it past its limits.

I think with a 4 inch skyjacker, would be the max I want to put into this truck at the moment. I want to do a body lift but that really does nothing for me except give me more room in the wheel wells.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-F150-R...&fits=Model:F-150&hash=item2c5e1c58d0&vxp=mtr

this is what I was thinking of doing so that I don't have to play with an alignment till I get a lift kit.

 

[bobbywalter]

i have used those types of spacers.

you will need bushings for sure and an alignment for sure. i suggest 3 deg adjustable bushings

the spacers are very cost effective. those, an add a leaf and or a fullsize 3-4 in block out back should be perfect. they sell one with 2 degrees in it that works ok as well.


i would also consider relocating the radius arm bracket rearward and using f150 arms, this will allow you to use more travel as the bind is mitigated. its a bitch to get them if you live in the salt belt but worth the effort.


i would get a 2 inch body lift, probably a 3 inch as well. makes cleaning and maintenance much easier...especially with mud on the menu.

be a pretty stout setup that will run 35's easy enough for those weekends out in the mud and run the 31's to work everyday.

 

[Edgefevah]

http://rockymountainsusp.com/fd4_Rgr83-97.htm#tc

ON this page under the skyjacker lift section under options it is these bushing sets that you are talking about right? I will probably get both so that I have both on hand in the future when I have a better idea of what kind of lift I want on the truck.
I have thought of doing something with the radius arms but for now I will leave it because the amount of wheeling I do doesnt need the extra flex. As for the body lift I have thought about just slapping on a 2 inch lift to help with wheel clearance, but dont like the idea a whole lot because it raises my center of gravity a bit and really doesn't help me much on the trail. although you bring up a good point it would help with cleaning and in the future when I want to do a 302 swap Ill have extra room and it will make it easier to change the tranny and transfer case.

I definitely need to do some research on doing my own alignments thats for sure. especially since I'll be doing the coil spacers by myself and the add a leaf.

What would you recomend for an add a leaf from your experience? also I'd love to read you build thread if you did one.

 

[Edgefevah]

never mind ill probably be using explorer leafs to replace y old and worn ranger leafs.

 

[bobbywalter]

yeah...those are all the little relatives and considerations...conditiion of current stuff verse options annd planned upgrades.


i dont know if explorers are what you want or one of the lighter 2wd 150 spring setups. the explorers are probably ideal as you wont have to enlarge your holes in the hanger. they are a bolt in.