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Kink in winch line


Evan

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A few days ago I was winching out and developed a kink in my 3/8" steel winch cable. I straightened it out by undoing the kink and tensioning the cable. The kinked area looks ok, except the line isn't braided as well in that spot anymore.

I was wondering if the cable is still safe to use, or I should replace it. Looking for responses from people who have a lot of winch experience or an engineering background.
 
That is now a weak spot in the cable. It is at your discretion as to weather you want to replace it or not. Are any of the strands broken? If it is fairly close to the end of the cable, cut it off and just sacrafice that few feet of cable.
 
I'd be extremely concerned about it. Braiding determines the strength of the cable.

If I had the equipment at hand, I'd test it to 10% over spec, and throw it away if it broke. But paying someone else to do that is likely to cost more than a new line. I certainly wouldn't bet my life on a guess.
 
That is now a weak spot in the cable. It is at your discretion as to weather you want to replace it or not. Are any of the strands broken? If it is fairly close to the end of the cable, cut it off and just sacrafice that few feet of cable.


None of the strands are broken. Unfortuantely it occurred near the middle of the cable. This was my first time using a winch, and I didn't know to be on the lookout for kinks.

I think the line is still plenty strong enough to handle 8000 lbs. of load, but I'd hate to be wrong and find out the hard way. I'd like to do an objective test of the line, but as MAKG said, it would likely be costly. I'm kicking around the idea of buying a synthetic line from TRS.

EDIT: Maybe I'll post a pic and you guys can look at it.
 
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i have been around alot of winching, if any of the strans are broke replace it, [but they are not] if it was to snap it is going to happen at that kink, it sounds like you fix it abit so you will be fine. you still have tons more winching you will get out of it. can you get a pic of it?
 
i have been around alot of winching, if any of the strans are broke replace it, [but they are not] if it was to snap it is going to happen at that kink, it sounds like you fix it abit so you will be fine. you still have tons more winching you will get out of it. can you get a pic of it?


I'll get a pic posted tonight.
 
I've never had experience, but Heath (Grand Cherokee in the club) has synthetic line, everyone says it's awesome. In the cold weather up here, I'd be tempted to go for synthetic.
 
HOLY CRAP! You know in "the matrix" when NEO first gets the information shoved into his brain....

YEAH, I feel sorta like that, GOOD READ!
 
Sounds like you might have 3/8" galvanized. That stuff is horrible. Swithc it for 5/16" non galvanized. It's much softer and easier to work with, lays better on the drum, much less likely to kink. Just spray WD40 on it whenever you think of it.

The kink will do no harm. Most of the time nobody get very close to the 14,000# that 3/8" cable is rated at. Your winch will only pull capacity with one layer on the drum. It's unlikely you will ever experience a failure on it. I have busted a cable--a 14,400# 3/8" with an 8,000# winch. I was on the last roll. I was cutting on an oak with a 50" base--a monument of an oak. I had pictures when we cut it but they must have died in the last forum troubles. Anyway my brother was on the winch control because the tree was leaning toward the road. He was bumping the winch and the tree was swaying with each bump. I didn't notice because I was sawing. The cable was massively overloaded with the force of the tree sawing against the winch clutch. It parted, and my saw chaps were hanging on the cable and fell down next to me and all of these dead limbs were crashing around and I look up and see the cable piled around me. The chaps had just parachuted the cable into the tree. I had to cut 20' of cable--in a hurry because this 25,000# tree is half cut.

Everything you do, you have to do smart. Get that cable I specified and give yourself a margin of safety by having easier cable. And think about dynamic forces. I would use the kinked cable because I know that most of the time it's only a few hundred pounds of help I need. But I would not use that cable to do a first roll, max force pull.
 
Winch Saver

Anybody heard of a Winch Saver?
Piece of equipment you should consider.

It's a urathane doughnut about 8" wide, 2 1/2" thick and you thread your cable through it then put your hook back on.

The doughnut cushions the hook when stowed against the farelead roller and is a instant cable weight when you string out your cable. I've been using one for two years.

Find them on ebay
 
Anybody heard of a Winch Saver?
Piece of equipment you should consider.

It's a urathane doughnut about 8" wide, 2 1/2" thick and you thread your cable through it then put your hook back on.

The doughnut cushions the hook when stowed against the farelead roller and is a instant cable weight when you string out your cable. I've been using one for two years.

Find them on ebay

you mean like one of these?
winchsaver-2.jpg
 
What is that for? I could see that giving you a warm fuzzy when you spool in your cable and think you have it stowed too tight.

I know when I broke that cable the chaps I had on it acted as a parachute. That donut isn't going to help slow down a busted cable.
 

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