It's not a jeep

[Phantom]

This coming Wednesday I leave for a five day trip with a large group of jeeps. So I thought I would add something to remind them that I can hang with them..

Should get some good chatter... First trip with the 4.0 in.. Looking forward to having some great times...


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[Rowdy Fitzgerald]

I like it! Then you should get a "Built Not Bought" sticker! I'm gonna go have one made for my 87.

 

[adsm08]

The 4.0 should make you much happier than the 2.9 did. I almost dread driving the BII anymore since I did the 4.0 swap in my Ranger.

 

[Phantom]

The 4.0 should make you much happier than the 2.9 did. I almost dread driving the BII anymore since I did the 4.0 swap in my Ranger.

I'm excited to see what the 4.0 will do, at first didn't look like much on paper, but after it was done, what a noticeable difference. Have been very happy with the 4.0 swap.. Have had about 2 months with it now, think I have worked all the bugs out for this trip.. The bronco still has a ways to go to get to where I want it, but it has been a fun project..


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[Andy D]

Please post a follow up ! TIA

 

[TexasRebel]

I like that idea. I might have to have a sticker made for my Nissan Xterra and my friends Xterra too. People are always calling them heeps.. I mean Jeeps and it bugs the piss outta us.

 

[RonD]

The name "jeep" is generic, first used in 1914 in reference to Army mechanics assigned to test new vehicles, in 1936 the Popeye comic strip added a character called "Eugene the Jeep" a small pet that "could go anywhere, could do almost anything and solve almost any problem", in 1937 a tractor made by the Minneapolis-Moline company and used by the Army was called a jeep.

The small 4WD vehicle made by Willys-Overland for the US Army in WWII was designated as a General Purpose(GP) vehicle, some think the GP designation was the source of the word jeep(gee-pee) when it was applied to this vehicle.
Like High-Mobility Multi-purpose Wheeled Vehicle became Humvee.

I think it came from the Popeye character Eugene the Jeep, the comics were popular with soldiers and the "could go anywhere, could do almost anything and solve almost any problem" certainly fits that vehicle's usefulness during WWII.
Pretty much every one these days knows what "having a Homer moment" means, D'OH

So next time some one calls your vehicle a "jeep" say "thanks, it can go anywhere, can do almost anything and solve almost any problem, and because it is still running it is made by FORD"

 

[bobbywalter]

The name "jeep" is generic, first used in 1914 in reference to Army mechanics assigned to test new vehicles, in 1936 the Popeye comic strip added a character called "Eugene the Jeep" a small pet that "could go anywhere, could do almost anything and solve almost any problem", in 1937 a tractor made by the Minneapolis-Moline company and used by the Army was called a jeep.

The small 4WD vehicle made by Willys-Overland for the US Army in WWII was designated as a General Purpose(GP) vehicle, some think the GP designation was the source of the word jeep(gee-pee) when it was applied to this vehicle.
Like High-Mobility Multi-purpose Wheeled Vehicle became Humvee.

I think it came from the Popeye character Eugene the Jeep, the comics were popular with soldiers and the "could go anywhere, could do almost anything and solve almost any problem" certainly fits that vehicle's usefulness during WWII.
Pretty much every one these days knows what "having a Homer moment" means, D'OH

So next time some one calls your vehicle a "jeep" say "thanks, it can go anywhere, can do almost anything and solve almost any problem, and because it is still running it is made by FORD"

thats common knowledge to all i run with.....


and once you sas a ranger base vehicle....i relegate it to jeep. my ranger.....is a jeep....or rangerish as i call it


ifs differentiates the rbv platform from jeeps.



if your running a sas...its just a funny looking jeep

 

[Phantom]

Thanks for the history, I don't take offense to the bronco being referred to a "jeep". I put the sticker on for the friendly banter amongst friends that we all get between makes and models... All my jeep buddies give the bronco the respect it deserves and many of them have helped on the build.. We're all there to enjoy the sport and support one another to push their rigs to the max. If it has a transfer case it's welcome around our group.. Watching the different makes and models is always fun..


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[bobbywalter]

usually friendly ribbing....i will work on anything with an engine, the jeep thing has an elitist side though, more so then any other make aside from certain rover groups in my experience.


that is in reference to guys that never touch their vehicle mechanically or even own tools, as they can just buy the best of the best and wonder why some kid in a stock rodeo makes them look bad in the bush....when they have bought a superior product.


i dont think your going out with this type of group, sound like real jeep guys if they are helping you build your rig.



the 4.0 and the b2 are one hell of a match....i know i love my 4.0 b2.....but


uhhhh.....its a jeep now too drum front brakes and all

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The name "jeep" is generic, first used in 1914 in reference to Army mechanics assigned to test new vehicles, in 1936 the Popeye comic strip added a character called "Eugene the Jeep" a small pet that "could go anywhere, could do almost anything and solve almost any problem", in 1937 a tractor made by the Minneapolis-Moline company and used by the Army was called a jeep.

The small 4WD vehicle made by Willys-Overland for the US Army in WWII was designated as a General Purpose(GP) vehicle, some think the GP designation was the source of the word jeep(gee-pee) when it was applied to this vehicle.
Like High-Mobility Multi-purpose Wheeled Vehicle became Humvee.

I think it came from the Popeye character Eugene the Jeep, the comics were popular with soldiers and the "could go anywhere, could do almost anything and solve almost any problem" certainly fits that vehicle's usefulness during WWII.
Pretty much every one these days knows what "having a Homer moment" means, D'OH

So next time some one calls your vehicle a "jeep" say "thanks, it can go anywhere, can do almost anything and solve almost any problem, and because it is still running it is made by FORD"

And Ford had a HUGE role in the Jeep too... down their grille that defines the brand now. That was designed by Ford during WWII.

 

[RonD]

Well I don't know about HUGE but they did help build them when production demands for the war effort became too much for Willys-Overland.

When it looked like the US would be joining the European war effort the US Army put out a tender for a small 4WD vehicle, the only company to submit a prototype(and the blue prints) for testing was the American Bantam Car Company.
The design was done by Karl Probst, an American freelance engineer under contract with American Bantam.
American Bantam did get a small contract and made about 2,500 of the Bantam "jeep"(Bantam BRC-40) which mostly went to England and some to Russia.

The US Army liked it but didn't think American Bantam could meet production demands(read kickbacks ).

So they scheduled a test of the Bantam vehicle and invited Willys-Overland and Ford, they also gave both the American Bantam blue prints for the vehicle, "claiming the government owned the design", because of the contact to produce them
Willys-Overland took the hint and submitted their prototype, pretty much an exact copy but with a stronger engine that the Army had requested after testing the first prototype(but didn't tell American Bantam about, best MPG was a spec on the first tender).
So in testing both prototypes side by side the Willy-Overlander won out because of the bigger engine.
Willys-Overland got the contract, and Ford got the overflow "because of elements favorable to Ford within the Quartermaster Corps"(i.e. read kickbacks)

Willys and Ford fought over who's design it was(American Bantam and Karl Probst, Duh), and after the war they fought over the "jeep" name, Willys won that one.

From 1942 to 1945 Willys-Overland had built 361,339 "jeeps"
Ford had built 277,896 "jeeps"

Willys was taken over by Kaiser and then Kaiser was taken over by American Motors then Chrysler took over American Motors.

 

[Andy D]

A guy up the street had a Ford Jeep. It had split rims with a 6 inch wide piece welded in Then 825 15s were used on them for the beach. They were identical to the Willys in all the major stuff to keep it simple. He called it Youthless. The little flat head was called the Go Devil 4.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

The US Army liked it but didn't think American Bantam could meet production demands(read kickbacks ).

With a war looming I would say they made the correct call. Bantam never made very many vehicles, Willys and especially Ford were ready to pump them out.

I forget how many changes Ford made to theirs to streamline production, it was several hundred. Interchangable with the Willys... but different. And many of the features from both the Ford and Willys prototypes were also incorporated into the Bantam design before production began.