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they are trying to outlaw small bore Off-road vehicles, please go to this site and sign the petition if you want you children and future generations to be able to enjoy motorsports! thanks!
------- www.tomself.com --------
 
you watched the AMA supercross event also? hehe, i already went there and signed it, someone else has already posted a diff website to do the same thing, but if no one has already done so they can visit timself.com to do it now.

P.S- Did u see the kid in the red shirt that said "I promise not to eat it, i just want to ride it!"
lol
 
there not going to be gone forever just until they fing the lead poisoning problem or whatever bullsh** reason they came up woth for getting rid of them theyll be back
 
This came about a couple months ago, I agree its a bit over the top. I don't think they intentionally meant to stop kids from riding though.

I created a group on facebook with links and information on the law. Last night I was contacted by Congressman Denny Rehberg regarding this law and my Facebook group. Its now been forwarded to the AMA so hopefully we'll get a lot more people joining. From what I've seen, Denny has managed to correct a few of the shortcomings of recent laws, so I'm hoping this will get sorted soon.

I personally own 8 Honda Z50's, and under this law its illegal for me to buy any more, sell mine, or even buy parts for them because they're "childrens toys!" And FYI, no one in my household is under 16! So anyway, if you have Facebook, join my group here:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=129904675330

and also add me as a friend if you like! :icon_thumby:
 
Well i heard at a local dealership i get parts from say that its going to take almost a year or more until they are done with all the testing, so until then, they cant sell parts for those bikes or sell the ones they already have.
 
This came about a couple months ago, I agree its a bit over the top. I don't think they intentionally meant to stop kids from riding though.

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whether intentional or not, that is what they are doing. please everyone just sign the petition!
 
yeah its a sneaky bullshit deal.....i have been scolded by women for tube doors and my 3 year old son riding his electric motorcycle.....thier bumper stickers tell the story.


sick shit....a say all of us sign it..
 
whether intentional or not, that is what they are doing. please everyone just sign the petition!

Not trying to defend the law, and I think its wrong, just sayin I dont think the point of the law was to stop kids from riding motorcycles.

If someone has a problem with your tube doors or your kid riding an electric motorcycle thats their own problem. I'm 18, I learned to ride a bicycle with no training wheels at 3, got my first proper motorbike (a Honda Z50) when I was 6, I'm now 18 and I've never managed so much as a broken bone!

People need to chill. Parents can do a much better job of watching out for their kids than the government can from behind a desk. A can of anti-freeze or even motor oil laying around in your garage is much more harmful to a child or pet than a little bit of lead in the crank case of your mini-trail.

Everyone sign that petition!
 
Not trying to defend the law, and I think its wrong, just sayin I dont think the point of the law was to stop kids from riding motorcycles.

If someone has a problem with your tube doors or your kid riding an electric motorcycle thats their own problem. I'm 18, I learned to ride a bicycle with no training wheels at 3, got my first proper motorbike (a Honda Z50) when I was 6, I'm now 18 and I've never managed so much as a broken bone!

People need to chill. Parents can do a much better job of watching out for their kids than the government can from behind a desk. A can of anti-freeze or even motor oil laying around in your garage is much more harmful to a child or pet than a little bit of lead in the crank case of your mini-trail.

Everyone sign that petition!


the point of the law is to shit can horrible devices from the get go....go look up thrillcraft. its turds like them that are pusing things like this.


my boy is 3....my oldest daughter will be 20...i have 5 kids total and all ride. the lil boy if he behaves will have a z50 or similar at 3..if he shows the ability, he will be tested and liscensed to ride with me on all state aqpplicable systems this year as well...i still have a trail bike i was riding at 5 which is in no way meant for a 5 year old...its an ol terra version of the rupp lil indian...i was just riding it today when we were making our new tracks in the woods that others tried to stop. its private property and i was happy to run the fuggin deq off...and killed a few other birds with that stone too. the do goody lady got a real education which you can bet will prompt some letter campaign to end this abuse of children due to exposure to these dangerous death machines.....

myself and you obviously see it differently.


its these types of people that do these things.
 
what really sucks is even with all these people against it, it's gonna take some time to get parts and bikes back on showrooms so anyone who need anything to get their kids bike running is going to have to make the parts or order them from out of the country.
 
I cant believe there still tryin to pass this BS ..... my entire family including me have all been riding from the time we could ride a bicycle without training wheels. Not once did I ever get any kind of lead poisoning..... or any other serious injuries besides scrapes and cuts tryin things that I knew I shouldnt lol.
 
You got my vote, they are trying to ban the 2-stroke motors we race on are Micro Sprint, let kick this bill's ass.
Kenny
 
the point of the law is to shit can horrible devices from the get go....go look up thrillcraft. its turds like them that are pusing things like this.


my boy is 3....my oldest daughter will be 20...i have 5 kids total and all ride. the lil boy if he behaves will have a z50 or similar at 3..if he shows the ability, he will be tested and liscensed to ride with me on all state aqpplicable systems this year as well...i still have a trail bike i was riding at 5 which is in no way meant for a 5 year old...its an ol terra version of the rupp lil indian...i was just riding it today when we were making our new tracks in the woods that others tried to stop. its private property and i was happy to run the fuggin deq off...and killed a few other birds with that stone too. the do goody lady got a real education which you can bet will prompt some letter campaign to end this abuse of children due to exposure to these dangerous death machines.....

myself and you obviously see it differently.


its these types of people that do these things.

All I'm saying is that the law was created to prevent high levels of lead from being allowed in children's toys. All the law specified was that this was to apply to anything marketed to children under 12. They didn't specifically pass a law to prevent ATV's and Dirtbikes from being sold to young children, it was a law intended to prevent young kids from coming into contact with toys containing large amounts of lead. Since small dirtbikes are "marketed for under 12's" they fell under the ban and unfortunately had to be taken off the market. There was nothing specifically in the law about powersports products.

I'm pretty convinced that for that reason the fact that ATV's and Dirtbikes have become banned was because of an oversight and a poorly written law, and its for that reason that I think it will be corrected! I'm sure there are many other things intended for children under 12 that might contain more lead than is allowed, and perfectly legitimately, so hopefully exceptions to the law will be made and powersports products will be included! If that list of exceptions shows up and powersports products aren't on it, THEN I'll be worried!

I did look up thrillcraft, and all I can say is :icon_rofl: lmaoo they are incorrect and uninformed in many different areas concerning "thrillcraft."

They claim and I quote directly from the website:

"Several negative impacts are common with all thrillcraft whether personal water craft (jet skis), dirt bikes, all-terrain vehicles, snowmobiles or any other motorized vehicles used primarily for off highway travel is that they operate with two-stoke engines."

Erm... Sorry but the majority of off-road vehicles I own are 4 stroke. I only own one two stroke dirtbike out of about 12 different ones, and I've never owned a 2 stroke ATV.

Even the information they claim about 2 Stroke vehicles is wrong:

Here they are talking about Snowmobiles and how they affect the environment.

"However, many enthusiasts still prefer the 2 stroke engine since it is considered to be superior in terms of power for weight and uses fuel more efficiently than a 4 stroke engine."

While a two stroke engine is lighter and generally more powerful for a given displacement, a 4 stroke engine generally produces much more torque which is necessary offroad, and you can't even buy 2 stroke trail bikes anymore. All the manufacturers have gone to 4 stroke and even many 2 stroke motocrossers are being replaced with 4 stroke versions. A 2 stroke is also waaayyy less fuel efficient than a 4 stroke, so whoever told them that little tidbit of information needs a slap! While there are certainly still many 2 strokes about, 4 strokes are fast taking over, as they are often now preferred!

Anyway, we might as well agree to disagree; as long as it gets sorted asap I don't honestly care, and don't think it matters who caused the law to come into effect. That Thrillcraft site was certainly full of crap though!
 

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