If the Ranger lives on redesigned how will it differ?

[jdc215]

id first like to see two solid axles
second either a good strait six or small turbo diesel motor. both have been known to hav very long lives
third coils up front, torsion bars dont flex for shit.
finally reintroduce a manual trans with the optional motors, automatics suck!

 

[crazy2.9l]

I just got back from the Ford Dealer tonight and took a new 09 Ranger out with a 4.0l 5speed 4x4 gotta say im pretty shure i want to buy it. What really pisses me off is Ford no longer offering a reg cab 4x4 long box ranger or a short box reg cab Ranger in 4x4. All reg cab rangers are 2drives. My first gen is reg cab long box 4x4 and i love haveing the 7ft box. I agree with the idea of adding the option of diesel i would buy it, before a 4.0l Ranger but hey the 4.0l will be cheaper on gas then my 5.8l in my F-150

 

[chipper6]

Just read this on Ford.com Heres the LINK

Amidst the "others" bankruptcies they are re-opening a engine plant

Ford will deliver EcoBoost across the full range of its product portfolio, from small cars to large trucks and by 2013, will offer EcoBoost engines, V-6s and I-4s, on 90 percent of its North American nameplates. Within three years, Ford expects to deliver 750,000 EcoBoost-equipped vehicles per year in North America and 1.3 million vehicles globally.

The 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 engine delivers 355 horsepower and a responsive 350 ft.-lb. of torque across a broad RPM range.

Long live the Turbo 2.3! .... and a twin turbo V6 for the power hungry.

 

[darkspork]

why does everyone want a diesel. diesel costs more to buy than gas. An average of a dollar or more even now as the price of gas has come down diesel still costs a dollar more a gallon.

Around here Diesel = $2.36/gal vs 87 octane gasoline = $2.69/gal.
Diesel has been about 30 cents/gallon cheaper than gasoline for about a month now, at least around here. But why a diesel?
1. Better fuel economy, or at least more power for the same fuel economy
2. Built to take more of a beating due to need to be able to handle much higher compression. Most diesels will still be ticking twice as long as its gasoline counterpart.
3. Longer maintenance intervals (although maintenance when required is generally more costly).

I really like diesels. I've used the V10 F350 at work and it would just burn through gas, whereas the F250 PSD still ate diesel, but not quite as quickly, but the PSD also makes a lot more power. Plus, the sound of the turbo whining is pretty sweet. The F250 PSD at WOT is probably one of my favorite truck sounds.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Diesels are built heavier to not self destruct, if they were not built the way they are they would break. Everybody says they are overbuilt to stand the higher compression and knocking... well they have to be or else they couldn't stand it.

Modern gas engines are very capible of outliving their host vehicle anyway... if not it is due to lack of maintenance or abuse, which will also kill a diesel just as fast.

Hanging a turbo (or two) on a direct injected gas engine will wake it up similar to when they they did it to diesels. At least on paper (I haven't driven a diesel or ecoboost car yet) I would pick the ecoboost, they put out outragous numbers.

I used to have a turbocharged car, a 200hp 2.0 that got 30 mpg was fun, and I don't think it redlined until 7-8k rpm...

 

[BlackSTX]

Well, as it's been reported, it will be slightly larger, but I'm hoping we get more than a 175 hp eco-boost engine. I'd like to see something in the range of a 250 hp 2.5L if not a small V6 or a diesel option.
If they were also smart, they'd scrap the idea of turning the Explorer into another unibody crossover and use the Ranger platform to create a new Explorer with a similar purpose to the Nissan Xterra. Then make it available in a simple shortened wheelbase 2 door vehicle without all the bells and whistles and call it a Bronco.

 

[dhdaniel]

wow, I'd just settle for better cupholders...

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Screw diesels, screw the ecoboost engines.

I would love to see the Ranger come with a big ol slow revving chug a luggin I6 or Big Block V8 with a nice big 4bbl and a 4sp.

later,
Dustin

 

[darkspork]

Diesels are built heavier to not self destruct, if they were not built the way they are they would break. Everybody says they are overbuilt to stand the higher compression and knocking... well they have to be or else they couldn't stand it.

Modern gas engines are very capible of outliving their host vehicle anyway... if not it is due to lack of maintenance or abuse, which will also kill a diesel just as fast.

Hanging a turbo (or two) on a direct injected gas engine will wake it up similar to when they they did it to diesels. At least on paper (I haven't driven a diesel or ecoboost car yet) I would pick the ecoboost, they put out outragous numbers.

I used to have a turbocharged car, a 200hp 2.0 that got 30 mpg was fun, and I don't think it redlined until 7-8k rpm...

I'm not disagreeing at all with you about diesels being built heavier in order to not self destruct. I just happen to be a fan of diesels. Almost every diesel I've driven makes a ton of torque and a sweet sound (especially Ford's new Powerstroke Diesel). Plus they are generally a lot more efficient than their gasoline counterparts (v10 superduty vs. psd superduty, i5 jetta vs tdi jetta, v8 Hemi Ram vs. Cummins diesel Ram, bmw 335i vs bmw 335d). The only problem a diesel has ever given me is the fuel gelled up once while left in the cold. As for turbocharged gasoline cars, I've driven my buddy's turbo'd RSX-S, its knocking hard, definitely seen better days, but it was pretty damn quick when he first got it, that and I test drove a Volvo C30 which was pretty nice. In any event, I would still really like to own a small diesel pickup or car.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I'm not disagreeing at all with you about diesels being built heavier in order to not self destruct. I just happen to be a fan of diesels. Almost every diesel I've driven makes a ton of torque and a sweet sound (especially Ford's new Powerstroke Diesel). Plus they are generally a lot more efficient than their gasoline counterparts (v10 superduty vs. psd superduty, i5 jetta vs tdi jetta, v8 Hemi Ram vs. Cummins diesel Ram, bmw 335i vs bmw 335d). The only problem a diesel has ever given me is the fuel gelled up once while left in the cold. As for turbocharged gasoline cars, I've driven my buddy's turbo'd RSX-S, its knocking hard, definitely seen better days, but it was pretty damn quick when he first got it, that and I test drove a Volvo C30 which was pretty nice. In any event, I would still really like to own a small diesel pickup or car.

Ford 6.4 gets about the same milage as a V-10, although it does make more power. Really I don't care much for the sound of the 6.4, I prefer the rattling knock of a 7.3...

The car I had was a 1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo, a rebadged Mitsubishi Eclipse. I dunno what all had been done to the engine but it had 130k when I got it and 170k when I sold it, and it didn't miss a beat. Never opened the engine up. After it sat for in the college parking lot for a week at a time it had a lifter that would tick until it built pressure back up... but that was it. I sold it to get my F-150, I would love to get another one someday...

 

[bullitproofranger]

I had designed what I would want the new ranger to look like on paper once, It's styling would very strongly resemble a new f-150, just smaller

 

[willied]

I had designed what I would want the new ranger to look like on paper once, It's styling would very strongly resemble a new f-150, just smaller

That's what I was thinking it should be like. I don't love all aspects of the new F-150, but it looks better than its competition.

 

[motox04]

I would like to see the Eco Boost engines and 4 wheel ids with coil over shock long travel suspension. I'm not a big fan of the solid axles unless it is being used for hauling around really heavy loads, which the Ranger isn't designed for anyway. Think about it you could run 31 inch tires and have more true ground clearance than a solid axle with 35's. Plus it would ride a heck of a lot better.

 

[backslash18]

What would I want them to change about the Ranger?
Eh, this about covers it...

http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/stories/lightningbolt/page1.html

 

[Frank The Tank]

I miss my diesel sometimes.... no gas engine could every out tow it. but I was extremely power hungry, took my 4x4 dually from 26mpg (with a mild hybrid turbo, 100hp injectors, 150gph fuel pump, edge timing)
to an unreliable 65psi boost, fuel guzzling, smoke at every light tire shredding brute... and for what? so i could sell it at a loss, I'm scared to get another diesel and get the torque bug again, I better stick with gassers till I hit the lotto!!! but a turbo 2.3 would be so awesome, I'd buy one, or two!!! if it was backed by a 5spd, 4x4 ext cab.


Frank