how to find my speaker wires again (lol)

[a-5 freak]

hmmmm... this might sound nuts, but what it you could put a small (1/4") spacer between the woofer and the dash, on the screw? would that buy you enough room?

 

[baxtej44]

welcome to the world of custom fabrication lol, what are they gonna hit on?

the heating/cooling "ducts"... pretty sure both of them will hit. i decided against painting my dash, as it's been too humid the past few days anyway, so hopefully i can get my dash put back together and find out for sure for you.

hmmmm... this might sound nuts, but what it you could put a small (1/4") spacer between the woofer and the dash, on the screw? would that buy you enough room?

speaking of "woofer"-that's what i felt they reminded me of, they have no tweeter, and move up and down like that lol.. they look tight.

what would the spacer be of? and like i said above, i'll have to check today.

 

[Psychopete]

Might not be to too unfeasible to heat up the tube really good with a heat gun or something and slightly melt the tube to get enough clearance. Don't know though, might make matters worse if it doesn't work out that way. I sort of shopped for price wise, but the big thing was just the size in general. Here is what I ended up with:

Spacer might work too, just have to estimate as best as possible (pad up a little for speak flex) for how much clearance before wasting any time. Speaker might get louder in the dash (speaker diffraction). Also verify that +/- are hooked up the same on each side. If one is backwards, they will be louder left/right side, but quieter centered.

If it doesn't work out, don't get discouraged from doing other things later on. As you run into this stuff, you will tend to get better and better at making stuff work. Worst scenario is you'll have to sell what you have and find something else that will fit.

Pete

 

[4x4fun]

Might not be to too unfeasible to heat up the tube really good with a heat gun or something and slightly melt the tube to get enough clearance.

x2 thats a good idea

 

[a-5 freak]

Might not be to too unfeasible to heat up the tube really good with a heat gun or something and slightly melt the tube to get enough clearance.

x3 dont use something crazy like mapp gas though. use like a high heat hair dryer or somethin.

Any body know if he could just cut it, and then put duct tape over the hole, but have it drooping into the air way? that is what i would try if i was in his situation.

 

[Psychopete]

Any body know if he could just cut it, and then put duct tape over the hole, but have it drooping into the air way? that is what i would try if i was in his situation.

He could, that would certainly work for a while. A quick and dirty solution, no doubt. But I've seen duct tape get kind of mushy from the constant interior temps over time setting out in the sun, plus having that heated air pushing against it.. More or less just me being kind of picky . I'd rather just work around it IMO. Sometimes a little thing like that will turn into a project itself.

Pete

 

[baxtej44]

not fond of the duct tape idea... sorry, no offense, just don't want something rigged like that really.

so i could just use a heat gun? i felt the plastic, and it seems pretty sturdy... not sure if a hair drier would do it, and i'm not patient enough to wait for lik 15 min lol...

we have a heat gun around here somewhere...


otherwise maybe i can just make like custom grills that extend up, somewhat like a gas stove has over it's burners? i've never done any metal work though, and don't think we have any of the tools...

 

[4x4fun]

a heat gun should get hot enuff, but i would use a metal spoon or something to try and shape the plastic not just mush it in. i would think you would want kinda a tapered valley not just an indent. just for the reason that if you try and streach it to much you might "tear" it when its soft.

 

[4x4fun]

hit post one to many times

 

[a-5 freak]

But I've seen duct tape get kind of mushy from the constant interior temps over time setting out in the sun, plus having that heated air pushing against it..

i completely forgot about the mushyness of the tape when heat is applied.

 

[baxtej44]

okay guys, and if it were to tear when i'm doing this? lol... god damnit. i wish this woulda been easy, but it hasn't been from the get-go.


like all the rest of my projects, it will have to wait until the weekend, i'm busy all week... but still open for new ideas.


so is there a general consensus that i should do the heat gun before trying spacers? or possibly a combination if i heat it and it isn't enough or something

 

[Psychopete]

I'd probably do some measuring first... Make sure the issue is an actual issue and figure out what needs to happen to get them to fit in there. You might need to melt or notch the heater tube, but how much? You might be able to raise it, but how much tolerance is there? Also you'll want to wait until the speaker mounting plan is solid; if you make a plate or mount, this will effect the measurements and fitment.

Pete

 

[4x4fun]

I'd probably do some measuring first... Make sure the issue is an actual issue and figure out what needs to happen to get them to fit in there. You might need to melt or notch the heater tube, but how much? You might be able to raise it, but how much tolerance is there? Also you'll want to wait until the speaker mounting plan is solid; if you make a plate or mount, this will effect the measurements and fitment.

Pete

X2
How ever with the melting idea, I would only do it if all you need is clearence for like a corner of the speaker. If you have to melt an area for the hole speaker, I think is a bit risky. But go slow with the heat maybe 20 sec at a time. And give a Lil push with the spoon. If you see the plastic become shiny like glass it's to hot and it will soon just melt away. If you have never melted plastic before I would find some trash and test melt some thing. Just so you can see how it looks as it gets soft. It's not hard we have done it to motor cycle farings too.

 

[Pistons23]

if it were me, id find some oversized nuts and use them as standoffs. then id make a cardboard template of the opening in the dash. then trace that onto some .5" mdf. then id go about a .5" in on that outline and create another outline. no now you have a .5" support for a grill cover. then id cover that with some grill cloth. if made right, it might be able to just be placed over the dash and be snug enough to where it doesnt need to be screwed on.

just and idea though. good luck

 

[baxtej44]

Might not be to too unfeasible to heat up the tube really good with a heat gun or something and slightly melt the tube to get enough clearance. Don't know though, might make matters worse if it doesn't work out that way. I sort of shopped for price wise, but the big thing was just the size in general. Here is what I ended up with:

Spacer might work too, just have to estimate as best as possible (pad up a little for speak flex) for how much clearance before wasting any time. Speaker might get louder in the dash (speaker diffraction). Also verify that +/- are hooked up the same on each side. If one is backwards, they will be louder left/right side, but quieter centered.

If it doesn't work out, don't get discouraged from doing other things later on. As you run into this stuff, you will tend to get better and better at making stuff work. Worst scenario is you'll have to sell what you have and find something else that will fit.

Pete

thinkin i might have to learn to do this... what is it called? a plate mount?

anyway, the screw paterns don't match up more than 1 screw hole at a time... also, i will need to mod for the left speaker, and possibly for the right too (can't quite remember fully)

put my dash back together and for sure the right doesn't fit.