here's what i've got... BLUE RIBBON COALITION
i'm very disturbed that i do not see any support of blue ribbon coalition or any other organization that helps to keep the OHV parks open... there is a huge fight going on in washington about our land probably daily. WE NEED THESE LANDS. we are losing land faster than most realize... since there is not a land use forum on here, i'm using general-- for the most traffic. i'm gonna be cost posting a lot of what our land use director of MSJ. so i'm not coming up with a lot of this, it is stuff that i have been made aware of...
first, i do support our armed forces, no doubt- but the marines are trying to take Johnson valley, HOME OF THE HAMMERS!... here is the quote from Kate(our land use director)
I am reposting this from another thread...
If you are not familiar with the fight, the summary is this: The Marines Need a Training area and are considering Johnson Valley, the home of the Hammers.
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The Hammers Needs Your Help!
The fight to save Johnson Valley is not over. The 19,000 comments made in the last round of this fight had a huge impact on the Marines and prompted them to offer alternatives. The Marines are still willing to hear from us. This may be our last chance to tell them what we think.
Click here (https://extranet.tecinc.com/29Palms_DEIS/) to tell the Marines what Johnson Valley means to you and why you why it needs to stay an OHV area.
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Here's a good copy and paste reply that you can use from Jerry Bransford if you don't feel like writing your own:
Johnson Valley may seem like just another featureless typical desert area, but to many from throughout the U.S. and indeed beyond U.S. borders, it is a completely unique and beautiful area that is unlike any other. Families and recreationists from far and wide flock to enjoy Johnson Valley and the endless recreational activities it provides. Visit the area and you'll find its visitors have license plates from across the U.S. Talk with more visitors and you'll discover that many of them come from as far away as Australia and Europe, and they are here solely to enjoy what Johnson Valley offers. Johnson Valley is that unique.
In fact, even many of the surrounding desert communities depend on those visitors for their very livelihoods and that if the visitors stopped coming, some of those communities simply may not even survive.
Johnson Valley hosts many events throughout the year including one of the fastest growing and toughest off-road competitive events in North America called King of the Hammers. That event alone drew over 15,000 visitors including TV and radio coverage that brought much needed revenue to the surrounding communities.
One of the largest groups of visitors includes the offroading community. Offroaders are completely supportive of the US military and especially our Marine Corps. We believe in the mission of the Marines and would do nothing to jeopardize the training that is so vital to the Marine Corps mission. With that in mind, we believe there is more than enough suitable terrain outside of and adjoining the Johnson Valley recreational area for the Marines to conduct their training in. There are certain areas within the Johnson Valley recreational area, particularly inside the canyons, that simply cannot be duplicated anywhere else. To lose those valuable recreational resources that are, truly, so unique would be tragic to a huge number of families and recreationists.
We believe few within the Marine Corps knew just how much Johnson Valley meant to so many and just how important of a national recreational resource that it has become. We believe that you do now understand its importance and because of that, we simply request that you give the most possible consideration to expanding your training areas to adjoining desert terrain that does not take our Johnson Valley away from us.
i'm trying to make a push towards blue ribbon coalition here. i'm a member, and will be a member before i pay for premium membership here or MSJ. its a fight, they are using the money to support our habits.. have y'all not seen the amount of lands that the west has already lost? and we don't even have a lot of land around my area as is... so if we lose any, that's it...
i want these PUBLIC lands to be open to the public-- if it be fishers, mountain bikers, horse riders, jeep guys, us, hikers or anyone else. it needs to be open to all people, a lot of these groups are trying to keep 4x4's off these public lands..
i know i have mentioned johnson valley and blue ribbon here, not really the same- but both are about keeping 4x4 land open.
take a second, copy and paste that message and send it in.
thanks.
i'm very disturbed that i do not see any support of blue ribbon coalition or any other organization that helps to keep the OHV parks open... there is a huge fight going on in washington about our land probably daily. WE NEED THESE LANDS. we are losing land faster than most realize... since there is not a land use forum on here, i'm using general-- for the most traffic. i'm gonna be cost posting a lot of what our land use director of MSJ. so i'm not coming up with a lot of this, it is stuff that i have been made aware of...
first, i do support our armed forces, no doubt- but the marines are trying to take Johnson valley, HOME OF THE HAMMERS!... here is the quote from Kate(our land use director)
I am reposting this from another thread...
If you are not familiar with the fight, the summary is this: The Marines Need a Training area and are considering Johnson Valley, the home of the Hammers.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Hammers Needs Your Help!
The fight to save Johnson Valley is not over. The 19,000 comments made in the last round of this fight had a huge impact on the Marines and prompted them to offer alternatives. The Marines are still willing to hear from us. This may be our last chance to tell them what we think.
Click here (https://extranet.tecinc.com/29Palms_DEIS/) to tell the Marines what Johnson Valley means to you and why you why it needs to stay an OHV area.
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Here's a good copy and paste reply that you can use from Jerry Bransford if you don't feel like writing your own:
Johnson Valley may seem like just another featureless typical desert area, but to many from throughout the U.S. and indeed beyond U.S. borders, it is a completely unique and beautiful area that is unlike any other. Families and recreationists from far and wide flock to enjoy Johnson Valley and the endless recreational activities it provides. Visit the area and you'll find its visitors have license plates from across the U.S. Talk with more visitors and you'll discover that many of them come from as far away as Australia and Europe, and they are here solely to enjoy what Johnson Valley offers. Johnson Valley is that unique.
In fact, even many of the surrounding desert communities depend on those visitors for their very livelihoods and that if the visitors stopped coming, some of those communities simply may not even survive.
Johnson Valley hosts many events throughout the year including one of the fastest growing and toughest off-road competitive events in North America called King of the Hammers. That event alone drew over 15,000 visitors including TV and radio coverage that brought much needed revenue to the surrounding communities.
One of the largest groups of visitors includes the offroading community. Offroaders are completely supportive of the US military and especially our Marine Corps. We believe in the mission of the Marines and would do nothing to jeopardize the training that is so vital to the Marine Corps mission. With that in mind, we believe there is more than enough suitable terrain outside of and adjoining the Johnson Valley recreational area for the Marines to conduct their training in. There are certain areas within the Johnson Valley recreational area, particularly inside the canyons, that simply cannot be duplicated anywhere else. To lose those valuable recreational resources that are, truly, so unique would be tragic to a huge number of families and recreationists.
We believe few within the Marine Corps knew just how much Johnson Valley meant to so many and just how important of a national recreational resource that it has become. We believe that you do now understand its importance and because of that, we simply request that you give the most possible consideration to expanding your training areas to adjoining desert terrain that does not take our Johnson Valley away from us.
i'm trying to make a push towards blue ribbon coalition here. i'm a member, and will be a member before i pay for premium membership here or MSJ. its a fight, they are using the money to support our habits.. have y'all not seen the amount of lands that the west has already lost? and we don't even have a lot of land around my area as is... so if we lose any, that's it...

i want these PUBLIC lands to be open to the public-- if it be fishers, mountain bikers, horse riders, jeep guys, us, hikers or anyone else. it needs to be open to all people, a lot of these groups are trying to keep 4x4's off these public lands..
i know i have mentioned johnson valley and blue ribbon here, not really the same- but both are about keeping 4x4 land open.
take a second, copy and paste that message and send it in.
thanks.
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