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Head + Intake Porting


zukirider21

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Alright, I gotta do a headgasket and and I'm wondering if I should clean up the intake and heads while im at it (using a little kit like the one from Standard Abrasives). Some people tell me that it's pretty rough in there. However, I know that the 2.9 is an impressive little motor from the factory (basically equivalent to half a 351 Lightning motor with peak power at a lower rpm) and is pretty finley-tuned as is. I also know that the 2.9 gets a little more air than it actually needs, and pulls best a little off of WOT. Now, would porting make that condition worse, or would it improve flow so much that I could possibly run a *LITTLE* bigger injectors?

Thanks
 
doubt that bigger injectors would not do much but burn more gas. good clean factory ones are fine.

Yes it is a bit rough in there....Port matching would yeild best results (IMO) a full port and polish maybe more, if you have time.

this maybe not worth the effort unles you did the same on the exhuast side
 
ok but if in the original state it gets a little more air than it needs at WOT, wont the condition worsen after allowing even more airflow in, withou adding fuel?
 
Porting a 2.9 head is definitely the proverbial "turd polishing"... If this is an OEM Ford casting I wouldn't waste my time... If it's the World Casting head, I'd do it... BUT, and this is a big BUT, only if I was trying to keep the old 2.9L for the rest of my life... IMHO, the only thing Ford did good with the 2.9 was turn it into the 4.0L... I'd just throw it on and not worry about anything, with only a port match job you might pick up 1 or 2hp... If you really want to make power you pretty much have to do a full P&P, with a new valvetrain,that would be the quickest way to pick up (significant) power... Injectors are only needed if it's running lean... If you were to do a full P&P and new valvetrain (including cam) and when they tuned it they noticed it leaning out, THEN you would need new injectors... Injectors aren't really something you just throw on because you think ya might need them...
 
unless you are planning on major mods on this motor (displacement increase, boosting it) all you are going to get is worse fuel mileage and something that runs like crap.
 
alright well heres what i dont get:

in stock configuration, THE 2.9 GETS TOO MUCH AIR AT WOT AND COULD BENEFIT FROM A *LITTLE* MORE FUEL (correct me if im wrong).

so, by INCREASING AIRFLOW even more by adding a performance filter, porting the intake and heads, and getting a set of headers with a free flowing exhaust, THE CONDITION WOULD BE MADE EVEN WORSE, unless some more fuel is added.

there has to be some technical merit to that thought, no?
 
alright well heres what i dont get:

in stock configuration, THE 2.9 GETS TOO MUCH AIR AT WOT AND COULD BENEFIT FROM A *LITTLE* MORE FUEL (correct me if im wrong).

so, by INCREASING AIRFLOW even more by adding a performance filter, porting the intake and heads, and getting a set of headers with a free flowing exhaust, THE CONDITION WOULD BE MADE EVEN WORSE, unless some more fuel is added.

there has to be some technical merit to that thought, no?

Where are you getting that the 2.9L flows more air than it needs? Did you take it and get a dyno tune? Because that's the only way you will know... Do all that stuff to it, then take it in and get it tuned, then and only then if it's shows it needing more fuel across the entire rpm range, then you might need new injectors...

Edit - I HIGHLY doubt you will improve airflow enough to warrant higher rate injectors...
 
alright **** it, ill just run the 2.9 till it blows and then go for a 4.0 or 302 swap.

thanks alot guys
 
Boy did these engines get a bad rap after I left or what:icon_confused:. No such thing as too much airflow, only such thing as low port velocities our improper camming. The 2.9's only real weaknesses in it's flowing abilities are in the upper to lower intake port matching (upper ports are way smaller then the lower ones), and the exhaust ports are slightly too big (headers can kinda make up for poor velocity here). Port matching the upper and lower intakes is your biggest gain for the smallest amount of effort. Read through my tips for more information on it. Also keep in mind that head gasket problem you think you have is more likely a cracked head on these engines, not saying it's not possible, but have a machine shop check it out before bolting it back together. Larger injectors would only be needed well beyond these stages, as far as I know nobody on here currently has a 2.9 at that point (let me know if there is though, I probably have some tricks for them if they do). When you start pushing one close to 200hp flywheel then larger injectors and increasing fuel pressure become a factor. If you modify one of these correctly you can actually increase your fuel mileage on them, the more efficient of an air pump you make it at it's normal operating rpm range the more gas mileage you will get. I used to get close to 24mpg out of my 87 on the highway (4x4, automatic 30" tires and 4.56's). Granted the cost and time involved (numerouse intake and exhaust combinations) of this efficiency far outweighed the benefit, it was still fun too see how far I could push one. I'm not advocating anybody try a build like I did again, very expensive for the power gained (well the nitrous power was pretty cheap:D). I did love the 2.9 for one major reason, It always seemed to run it's butt off for as small as it was, so it was a fun engine. If I could have my old 87's 2.9 back the way it was when I sold it, I'd be very tempted to put it in place of my 01's 4.0L SOHC motor, it simply had more useable power. Not that the SOHC motor doesn't have a ton more potential becouse it does. Just highly modified 2.9 vs stock 4.0L SOHC, my 2.9 was a better street engine. Now If I could get some more bottom end torque out of this SOHC I may change my mind a little bit, not too impressed with its low end so far (it's got 4.10's so that shouldn't be the problem).

:icon_cheers:
Pat Kunz
 
Pat, I went from a 2.9 the 7th or 8th in that chassis (I lost count)
to a '93 4.0 OHV and ever since I've been regretting not doing it five
or six years earlier

want useable power? the 4.0 makes more torque at 1000rpm than a 2.9 CAN make.

It isn't exciting in a sports car kinda way like the 2.9 engine is
but it seems to do everything you ask it to do with what seems like
a minimum of effort.

The 4.0SOHC wasn't made for the ranger, it was made to make the
typical (asshole type) Explorer driver (Who thinks his Explorer should
be driven in commuter like a Miata) happy.

Yeah, it's a lot like the 2.9, but that isn't necissarily a good thing.


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AllanD,

I'm not disagreeing with you at all. Stock to stock there is nothing a 2.9 has over a 4.0L. I was simply comparing my old (very modified) engine vs my current 4.0 SOHC engine. The OHV 4.0L on the other hand is a different animal then the SOHC version. Kinda in the same way the 5.0L OHV engine compares to the SOHC 4.6L. OHV engines will make more low end torque and drive completely different. I still wish Ford would have stuck with the OHV engine designs like GM did, the LS series of engines are phenomenal (sp?) and can make their power normally aspirated. I have an LS-4 in my 08 Grand Prix GXP and love it, it's got 330 ft/lbs of torque useable at all times. My wifes 02 mustang GT 5spd with the SOHC 4.6L wasn't nearly as fun to drive and didn't have anything like the bottom end torque. The purpose of my last post was actually two fold, one to prove a 2.9 can be built to rival 4.0L SOHC power, BUT, it's awfully expensive and time consuming to do it. For the vast majority the rather simple 4.0L OHV swap will get most people the power and torque difference they are looking for, for quite a bit less change.

:icon_cheers:
Pat Kunz
 
in the tech library
 
Polishing the intake tract on a fuel injection engine helps smooth out the air and gets more into the cylinders and polishing the exhaust ports holds more heat inside the port and speeds up flow. Both work but the return you get in power is a lot less than a V-8 or a larger V-6.
 
Thanks Allan D and Pat K for helping me decide about building a 2.9 to get the performance or going bigger. I don't feel I'm at the milestone of a V8, but am going to swap a 4 liter in my 88 Ranger. Sometimes we get hard headed and don't listen to others and their experiences.

Bill
 

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