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Factory 1025hp dodge demon


Enjoy it while you can, this is the last year.
 
Fiat sure makes some fast cars but I'll never buy anything from them. I owned many Mopars in my youth that were built by Chrysler in the U.S.
For decades Fiat was supported by Italian tax money. After they swallowed Chrysler and started showing a profit they moved their headquarters to the Netherlands to avoid paying Italian taxes.
 
Fiat sure makes some fast cars but I'll never buy anything from them. I owned many Mopars in my youth that were built by Chrysler in the U.S.
For decades Fiat was supported by Italian tax money. After they swallowed Chrysler and started showing a profit they moved their headquarters to the Netherlands to avoid paying Italian taxes.


Classy.
 
Enjoy it while you can, this is the last year.
I think alot of it is the whole stellantis umbrella.

IMO Dodge, Jeep and Ram should cut all ties. Dodge is committing suicide with their future plans.
 
Stellantis formed when they merged with a French company...

I think alot of it is the whole stellantis umbrella.

IMO Dodge, Jeep and Ram should cut all ties. Dodge is committing suicide with their future plans.

It's either lead, follow or get out of the way.

Either way the 300/charger/challenger are well past due a major update.
 
Stellantis formed when they merged with a French company...



It's either lead, follow or get out of the way.

Either way the 300/charger/challenger are well past due a major update.
Dodge specfically kinda carved a niche for themselves though. Building in your face stuff with attitude and selling it for a somewhat affordable price.

Dodge now without the attitude/obnoxious and marketing is...not that great.
 
Dodge specfically kinda carved a niche for themselves though. Building in your face stuff with attitude and selling it for a somewhat affordable price.

Dodge now without the attitude/obnoxious and marketing is...not that great.

But they are getting a twin turbo I6...
 
But they are getting a twin turbo I6...
That will sound like a tractor with any kind of exhaust.

Have you heard a EB raptor? Its kinda hideous and kills the vibe of the whole truck

Thats my point...sure you can make them as fast as they were....probably...but its the ride for the senses that really only a V8 muscle car can provide.
 
That will sound like a tractor with any kind of exhaust.

Have you heard a EB raptor? Its kinda hideous and kills the vibe of the whole truck

Thats my point...sure you can make them as fast as they were....probably...but its the ride for the senses that really only a V8 muscle car can provide.

Better than what is going to follow...
 
I personal love a nice big I6. I think 3.0 might be too small for what they are planning on doing with with it, but it's better then nothing.

Some of those big power V8s they sell barely run on pump gas.

Guy I work with had one, said no less then 93 oct, this is a guy that drives all over California traveling to sites for work. Complaining it cost too much to fill up. Why does it need 93, isn't that the point of the giant V8, you don't need run crazy compression to make good power? Maybe install a washer fluid injector and run 89.....
 
I love the tractor sound as much as the next guy...nothing like a well tuned M lugging under a big load....but...i wouldnt want a muscle car to sound like that.


with such a low displacement, only 3.0L, and I’m sure it’s gonna spin pretty good with the twin turbos, I doubt it’s going to sound like a tractor.
Probably just sound very European.
 

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