EB Coils - think I found the unicorn

[JohnnyU]

Did you at least test fit the springs to be sure they are going to work?

 

[4x4junkie]

Was the side with the most washers the passenger side? Ive noticed after having my beams out agian that the pass side is about 10" shorter then the drivers. On my setup I have about 1/2" to 3/4" more spacer on the pass side beam to make the two sides level.

It was the passengerside, yes. I was literally on the very last thread of the stud with the retainer nut (AND had another ¾" of washers UNDER the hex nut of the stud as well). There was probably over 2½" of washers stacked up on that side (about 1½" on the D-side)

(originally there was about ¾" of washers on the p-side, about ½" on the d-side. Now I have no washers at all (both sides) )

 

[littleredrangerhood]

Did you at least test fit the springs to be sure they are going to work?

No, I am having all this stuff shipped home. I am still at school. I am going to do all the measuring before I start to tear into the truck. Right now, all the parts are brand new and I could sell them/return them to recoup some of my money if this whole thing doesn't work. I am operating on a little bit of faith and the fact that I won't take failure as an option. Call me stupid or whatever else you want to but I am willing to make the financial sacrifice. Besides, if this whole thing doesn't work, then it simply moves up my plans for SAS with 1 tons.

 

[Bray D]

update?

 

[littleredrangerhood]

I posted up in the RBVs under construction section.

Here is a link.http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4208
At this point I have everything for the project. Over Thanksgiving Break I should be able to tear into the front and start installing the new coils/buckets. I am going to redo the extended radius arm mounts at the same time and have them mount to the frame instead of to a crossmember I made out of box steel. Finishing the rear takes precedence though so who knows how far I will get. I should be able to have this thing completely finished over Christmas break including new driveshafts and a doubler if it ever gets here.

 

[littleredrangerhood]

Update:

Underestimated how much the EB coils would squat so instead of lifting the front 2" more (total of 6.5") they lowered the front .5-1". It didn't help that I raised the EB coil buckets 2.5" up the frame rail as opposed to mounting the bottom edge flush with the bottom of the frame. Sooo, the truck has a pretty good rake to it right now especially since I made the rear shackles longer on purpose with the intention of cutting them down once I knew the exact amount of lift the front was getting. Anyway, I still need to make the front lower coil buckets/mounts so I am going to build them so they give 2.5" of lift. Its either that or coil spacers. I am definitely going to be taking out the 3" BL when the suspension is all wrapped up. I still have to redo the front radius arm mounts too. Here are some pics of how the truck is looking now.

The rear still needs a bit of work. Still have to finish the spare tire mount and gas tank retention system, hence the ratchet straps.

All that will have to wait until Christmas break.

 

[rickcdewitt]

so the bc broncos #51-17200 gave 5"-5 1/2" lift in the end?

 

[littleredrangerhood]

If I had not raised the coil buckets up 2.5" then the bc bronco coils would have netted between 5.5 and 6.5" of lift.

If you want mine I will sell them to you since I am using leaf springs up front for my SAS. They only have a couple runs on them. PM me and we can work out a price.

 

[rickcdewitt]

you only needed the raised buckets because the early bronco upper perches were also raised right?

 

[littleredrangerhood]

No, I thought I needed to raise the buckets because the EB coils were so long and a number of people told me that raising the buckets would make it so I would only net 6" of lift but they squatted more than expected. If I hadn't raised the buckets then they would have been the perfect lift height. Problem was that I welded the one bucket on and it was all cut up to fit over the steering bulge in the frame so I just said F*ck it and went with the SAS.

 

[Hardwareman]

This is a good coil thread guys!

I'll try to apply this knowledge to my 2wd. Thanks




Allen

 

[rickcdewitt]

If I hadn't raised the buckets then they would have been the perfect lift height.

axle perch was raised 2.5" because the frame perches are raised 2.5" right?sorry to keep asking but in the thread it looks like you raised both the frame and axle perches

 

[JFA_Spyderman]

axle perch was raised 2.5" because the frame perches are raised 2.5" right?sorry to keep asking but in the thread it looks like you raised both the frame and axle perches

Yo,
lol, I made that same mistake to on this thread. I thought they were spacers on the axle, but they are just large buckets. The coils go all the way down inside.

 

[madmax401]

I think doing the sas would be the better choice as they said before. hey .....who am i anyway ? i'm a first timer at this and i made a lot of miscalculations.....but , i am learning a hell of a lot here at TRS. the guys in here are freak'n awesome with their willingness to help us out by stearing us away from their previous experiences / mistakes . im in the process of f150 stuff right now and a d44 on my 88 supercab ,anything that i find that might be helpful to you i will definatley share . with out these guys ..........i would never have ventured the road of sas and 351 swap.
good luck on your sas, and keep us posted.

 

[littleredrangerhood]

axle perch was raised 2.5" because the frame perches are raised 2.5" right?sorry to keep asking but in the thread it looks like you raised both the frame and axle perches

Ok, I understand what you are asking now. I made lower coil buckets out of 6" OD tube steel. The lower buckets "raised" the lower mounting location of the coil a little bit but not much. Their main purpose was to provide a mounting surface and locate the spring, not really to raise it.