easy lift kit

[ranger530]

my friend have been talking and saying that they cranked their torsion bars and it made their front end up a little to their wants....... should i do it because i am getting a 1 inch lift in the back so to save money i was wondering about doing that???? yes/no

 

[88_Eddie]

do it, a lot of people on here have done for more than just an inch of lift....you may not even notice much of difference in ride quality.

 

[straycat]

If you crank them up all the way you will ruin your suspension and the ride will really suck. Do not crank them up too much. This has been posted way too much on this site. Do a search on the subject and you can read more info about it. 1 inch is really nothing, Bro. You can buy a lift kit on Ebay for under $200 that has what you are looking for. Search on Ebay for your year Ranger and see what comes up....front and rear lift for under $200.

Good luck!!!!

 

[straycat]

Just to give you an example...here's a 95-2009 Ranger, Exlpoder 3 inch lift kit with Procomp rear add-a-leaf springs (like I use on my rear end (but I have a bigger lift). This kit is $159.95


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

[Viva*the*Ranger]

Just to give you an example...here's a 95-2009 Ranger, Exlpoder 3 inch lift kit with Procomp rear add-a-leaf springs (like I use on my rear end (but I have a bigger lift). This kit is $159.95


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

Those aftermarket T-bar keys, are WAY worse for your IFS than just cranking your stock keys. The problem is, you can't turn them down. Your stock keys will offer more than enough lift to level your rig.

Either way, it's not the best thing for your CV joints. I have my F-150 t-bars cranked up pretty good, and have wheeled the crap out of it, without any problems.

 

[straycat]

I have friends who have had them for years with no issues what so ever. Cranking up the tbars to add a bigger tire is still in away permanent until you go back to a smaller tire. Crank that tbar up too much and you will cause issues and this kit will not cause any issues. They have been on the market for years with great reviews. But that was just an example as I said...there are some great deals on Ebay for quick lift kits that will last and are safer than adding a set of stup washers!!!

 

[Viva*the*Ranger]

Not trying to pick a bone with you Straycat, at all. I respect you a ton. I just want it to be clear.... The aftermarket T-bar keys do exactly what the stock keys do, just more of it. The only difference between stock and aftermarket keys is; the aftermarket keys allow you to crank the bars even further. The only way to get lift without brackets is to turn the bars. That's all the aftermarket keys do. Either way it's going to do the same damage to your CV's. The Aftermarket keys aren't going to do less damage then the stock, if anything they'll do more.

Stock keys: Up to 2" of lift

Aftermarket keys: Up to 3 1/2" of lift..

If I recall correctly, 12-13 degrees of angle is safe on your CV shaft. Past that is where you start pushing it pretty good....

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. It's been a few years...

-Denny

 

[gribly]

Depends on year of the truck, too. On an '01+ your truck is more at risk of killing CV shafts as it's always turning 'em. It's not just CV's that take a beating, too. Your balljoints will be pushed to their limits. It doesn't matter if a few people have done it and been okay, not every situation is the same. You lose down travel, you're going to be bouncing off the upper limits on bumpy roads. The cons outweigh the pros with this sort of modification, you're better off saving a few more bucks for an actual suspension kit, not just a lift kit. I think superlift makes the lift and the better cv's that you'll want to get.

Here's a good analogy of it - you fix a leaky boat with a bit of duct tape, and it might work, might even hold forever and be fine - but that still doesn't mean it was the best way to do it.

 

[Viva*the*Ranger]

^Word

This has been a SUPER common thread. If you don't mind replacing some parts here and there, and a rough ride, go for it.

If you crank it up a little, and gain an inch or so of height, you shouldn't have anything to worry about, and it shouldn't affect the ride much.

 

[Toms01PSD]

Yet again straycat has to throw in his less than stellar advice. DO NOT buy what he posted a link to. After market torsion keys will put your CV's at too much of an angle and they will cause premature wear on your front end. I believe there's even a thread on here about a guy who bought them and they caused his front end to wear out. Crank up the stock keys and get an alignment. You will notice a difference in ride quality even if you crank them a bit.

 

[straycat]

Not trying to pick a bone with you Straycat, at all. I respect you a ton. I just want it to be clear.... The aftermarket T-bar keys do exactly what the stock keys do, just more of it. The only difference between stock and aftermarket keys is; the aftermarket keys allow you to crank the bars even further. The only way to get lift without brackets is to turn the bars. That's all the aftermarket keys do. Either way it's going to do the same damage to your CV's. The Aftermarket keys aren't going to do less damage then the stock, if anything they'll do more.

Stock keys: Up to 2" of lift

Aftermarket keys: Up to 3 1/2" of lift..

If I recall correctly, 12-13 degrees of angle is safe on your CV shaft. Past that is where you start pushing it pretty good....

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. It's been a few years...

-Denny

Yo, Bro!! We be cool!!! lol It is just a matter of how you do the install and MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS. Most people don't follow instructions and read the safety guidelines as you know. But these kits have been around for sometime and Trucks did an episode with them some years back and so did Extreme 4x4 and so have several of my Offroad mags. They claim these are a great way to lift your ride (for a cheap long lasting lift kit). But....some people don't want to spend a lot of money and want to use washers under the coils for instance and I just feel if you are going to crank the tbars just do it a little and it you want a bit better ride buy this kit. My friends that have done this are really happy with the ride quality that got after adding a kit like this.

 

[straycat]

Yet again straycat has to throw in his less than stellar advice. DO NOT buy what he posted a link to. After market torsion keys will put your CV's at too much of an angle and they will cause premature wear on your front end. I believe there's even a thread on here about a guy who bought them and they caused his front end to wear out. Crank up the stock keys and get an alignment. You will notice a difference in ride quality even if you crank them a bit.

NO they don't. It has been proven on Extreme 4x4 and my offroad mags did articles on these kinds of lifts several years back. Non of my friends who did this type of lift have never ever had any problems with this kit!! If you read the instructions and do it right you will have no problems. Any time you lift a vehicle you need to do an alignment or at least have it checked.....45% of people who lift their rides DON'T DO THIS!!!

 

[Toms01PSD]

NO they don't. It has been proven on Extreme 4x4 and my offroad mags did articles on these kinds of lifts several years back. Non of my friends who did this type of lift have never ever had any problems with this kit!! If you read the instructions and do it right you will have no problems. Any time you lift a vehicle you need to do an alignment or at least have it checked.....45% of people who lift their rides DON'T DO THIS!!!

Uh, dude, you can crawl under your truck and crank your torsion bars for free! They are a waste of money. Extreme 4x4 and your offroad mags can suck it. End of story.

 

[bilzy7]

it does lift it, it does make it stiffer. i actually enjoy the softness of mine not cranked. i got 31.5 inch tires and they fit fine.

 

[gribly]

Getting an alignment and reading instructions doesn't change the fact that you are increasing driveline angle... Where the hell did you get the figure that 45% of people who lift their trucks don't get alignments?

You honestly have barely a clue what you are talking about if you say torsion keys are safe but cranking stock keys are not. At least go look at an exploded diagram or something. Having the lift key on the bar does not fix the balljoint and CV issue on the OTHER END OF THE BAR.