Does anyone here use Hagerty Insurance?


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I, like most, have a significant investment in time and parts restoring several older vehicles. None of these vehicles are considered collectable, and none of them are high value items like the typical Ferarri type deals. And as most of you already know, with standard insurance, if you get t-boned by some ingrate one day while driving your pristine 1987 Ranger, all you have invested will be lost when your insurance company totals it for a bent bumper and offers you 1500 bucks for your vehicle that goes for $6-7K on the current market.
Insurance companies also don't get along, you can't carry 2 policies on one vehicle because one or the other will deny paying you anything if it comes down to it and they find out there is another policy that covers it. So this is why I started looking at Hagerty, this is what they do. Yea, they normally do high-dollar stuff, but the concept is the same.
I just wondered how solid they are if something happens, especially with medical liabilities if someone else is injured, etc.
Anyway, I know it's a log shot, but I wanted to see if anyone here has any real world experience with them and what they think of it.
Thanks fellas!
 
I have a hagerty policy on my '68, due to condition valuation is set at about $5k basic coverage, and costs about $180/year IIRC. Speaking of which it should be coming up due pretty soon, so thanks for the reminder.

Probably the only aggrevation of having a specialty classic/collector/custom insurance policy is the restrictions that they want to put on use. Basically they don't want you using it as a work vehicle or daily driver, and limit miles per year. That said how are they going to know.

As for how they are in event of a claim, I have no idea and hope to never find out.
 
I have Haggerty on both Rangers, the ‘97 Road Ranger, and the ‘87 Missing Linc. Mine are customized. If you’re not familiar, see my build threads in my signature.

But let me start with Grundy worldwide. I’ve had Grundy over 20 years. In a former life, I had a lot of classic Mercedes, several Rolls-Royce, Italian sports cars, etc.. When I discovered them, I think I had eight vehicles with State Farm. I moved the classics to Grundy, and it was about 20% of the cost of State farm with far better coverage: agreed very good value upfront, decent liability limits, zero deductible. Right now, I have a 78 continental Marc V, a 1987 signature town car, and a 1988 signature town car with Grundy. All three are near pristine. All three share one liability coverage, and then each car’s collision & comp is added to that anchor policy.

When I got the Rangers (2020) and I modified them, Grundy wouldn’t do them because there were too many still just used on the road for work. Haggerty picked them both up. I think part of the reason Haggerty covered them is because I had Grundy for so many years, and I have Liberty Mutual regular insurance on my ‘96 F250. I’m also the only driver in the household. Haggerty on the Rangers is about half the cost of what I was paying Liberty Mutual at the time, with much much better coverage.

Understand a little bit how it works. Double check my “facts“ here if you decide to do it.

Collector insurance won’t usually cover you unless you’ve got regular insurance on at least one other vehicle in your name. And there has to be one regularly insured vehicle for each licensed driver in the household. If you do the kind of work that requires a truck, there will probably have to be one truck on a regular policy before they will write a second truck on a collector policy. I think one of the reasons I didn’t have any trouble with the Rangers is because I had a cherry F250 with regular insurance so they knew I wouldn’t be working out of the customs, and I’m also mostly retired. I still work as an engineer with a commercial real estate license, but I don’t do any physical work like a carpentry or such. If you don’t have another vehicle, they know you’re using it as a daily driver or maybe for work, which is not allowed under the collector policy.

Accident and incident history is also important. Most people who have true collector vehicles protect them like the family jewels and don’t push them and have accidents. If you have bad spots on your record, it’s unlikely they’ll cover you.

The collector policy is supposed to be for hobbyists, not for your daily life. Using it for work is prohibited. The policy won’t cover things like driving through the woods for fun on trails and such, especially stuff like missing or rock climbing. Some policies won’t let you tow trailers. Etc. Again, the vehicles are supposed to be used for cruising and show, not for living life and working.

Understand also how it works if you’re in an accident. Say work is prohibited, and someone hits you, not your fault, but it’s obvious you’re working out of the truck. Not only does the policy get canceled, it goes on the common database that you were using the insurance fraudulently. Try getting coverage after that at a reasonable price. If you hit someone else, it will be limited to the coverage you have, you’ll also be canceled and it will be difficult to get coverage at a decent price. The real downside there is if the person you hit sues you, they might not defend or cover you. On the bright side, they will cover the damages in the accident, but they they’ll toss you to the curb after that and every other insurance company will know about it.

On the positive side, I’ve had two accidents, one my fault and one not my fault. There was nothing ugly like drunk driving. They cut a check in a week, virtually no questions asked.

If you want to discuss it, send me a private message and I’ll send you my phone number. I’ve been doing the collector policy stuff for 2025 years at least, and I hang with a whole bunch of guys who got collector vehicles.
 
I have Haggerty on both Rangers, the ‘97 Road Ranger, and the ‘87 Missing Linc. Mine are customized. If you’re not familiar, see my build threads in my signature.

But let me start with Grundy worldwide. I’ve had Grundy over 20 years. In a former life, I had a lot of classic Mercedes, several Rolls-Royce, Italian sports cars, etc.. When I discovered them, I think I had eight vehicles with State Farm. I moved the classics to Grundy, and it was about 20% of the cost of State farm with far better coverage: agreed very good value upfront, decent liability limits, zero deductible. Right now, I have a 78 continental Marc V, a 1987 signature town car, and a 1988 signature town car with Grundy. All three are near pristine. All three share one liability coverage, and then each car’s collision & comp is added to that anchor policy.

When I got the Rangers (2020) and I modified them, Grundy wouldn’t do them because there were too many still just used on the road for work. Haggerty picked them both up. I think part of the reason Haggerty covered them is because I had Grundy for so many years, and I have Liberty Mutual regular insurance on my ‘96 F250. I’m also the only driver in the household. Haggerty on the Rangers is about half the cost of what I was paying Liberty Mutual at the time, with much much better coverage.

Understand a little bit how it works. Double check my “facts“ here if you decide to do it.

Collector insurance won’t usually cover you unless you’ve got regular insurance on at least one other vehicle in your name. And there has to be one regularly insured vehicle for each licensed driver in the household. If you do the kind of work that requires a truck, there will probably have to be one truck on a regular policy before they will write a second truck on a collector policy. I think one of the reasons I didn’t have any trouble with the Rangers is because I had a cherry F250 with regular insurance so they knew I wouldn’t be working out of the customs, and I’m also mostly retired. I still work as an engineer with a commercial real estate license, but I don’t do any physical work like a carpentry or such. If you don’t have another vehicle, they know you’re using it as a daily driver or maybe for work, which is not allowed under the collector policy.

Accident and incident history is also important. Most people who have true collector vehicles protect them like the family jewels and don’t push them and have accidents. If you have bad spots on your record, it’s unlikely they’ll cover you.

The collector policy is supposed to be for hobbyists, not for your daily life. Using it for work is prohibited. The policy won’t cover things like driving through the woods for fun on trails and such, especially stuff like missing or rock climbing. Some policies won’t let you tow trailers. Etc. Again, the vehicles are supposed to be used for cruising and show, not for living life and working.

Understand also how it works if you’re in an accident. Say work is prohibited, and someone hits you, not your fault, but it’s obvious you’re working out of the truck. Not only does the policy get canceled, it goes on the common database that you were using the insurance fraudulently. Try getting coverage after that at a reasonable price. If you hit someone else, it will be limited to the coverage you have, you’ll also be canceled and it will be difficult to get coverage at a decent price. The real downside there is if the person you hit sues you, they might not defend or cover you. On the bright side, they will cover the damages in the accident, but they they’ll toss you to the curb after that and every other insurance company will know about it.

On the positive side, I’ve had two accidents, one my fault and one not my fault. There was nothing ugly like drunk driving. They cut a check in a week, virtually no questions asked.

If you want to discuss it, send me a private message and I’ll send you my phone number. I’ve been doing the collector policy stuff for 2025 years at least, and I hang with a whole bunch of guys who got collector vehicles.

wow, thanks for taking the time to write all that up, I appreciate it. See, this is my dilemma. I don't use these cars for work or anything, but they aren't show cars, I insist on using them because, well, I like them and I want to drive them. One month, the Ranger may be my daily, the next, it may be the old Dodge. I don't mind paying slightly more for insurance, but I need good general coverage for liability stuff and at the same time get paid what it would cost me to replace it, not what the asshats at State Farm or whoever offers me because it's a huge deficit every single time. You know the drill, you aren't getting jack for the vehicle you spent 2-3 years making like new again, you'll get average market, and it's never even that. Anyway, it's a problem I'd like to solve but I don't know if there is a solution because of what you mentioned... the restrictions with places like Hagerty.
 
Ok, a few more thoughts

Neither Grundy nor Haggerty has a mileage limit anymore. The big one is certainly using it for any kind of work where the truck is used as a tool in that work. And they don’t want you using it for a daily commute, especially in a place like Atlanta.

Having said that, I rarely drive my regular insured F250, but I do rotate the other collector five. Think about the requirement that you’re only supposed to use it for enthusiast purposes. What if your main car breaks down? Does that mean you have to rent a car instead of using the collector? No, using it for a day or two while your main vehicle is being repaired probably won’t come down on you if you had an accident. And unless it’s something extremely serious, I can’t see them doing any checking on that. But here’s my disclaimer, I could be wrong, do this at your own risk.

Second, if you have collector vehicles, they have to be maintained, so obviously you’re going to be driving it back-and-forth to wherever when there isn’t an actual show going on. And part of the collector use is using the car when you’re hanging out with your buddies or whatever. That’s completely allowed.

And my junk are not showroom quality showpieces. Both are painted with rust oleum with a foam roller. But they’re obviously not your typical Ranger daily driver. And you don’t start out with a showroom quality show Vehicle. You make that overtime, so early in the game, it could be pretty plain Jane.

Trail riding in rock, climbing and tugs of war, and all the fun stuff you can do with them is strictly prohibited and would likely lead to denying a claim I’m unusual and weird for TheRangerStation.com because I have the Missing Linc four-wheel-drive that rarely leaves the pavement. If it does leave the pavement, it’s going a couple hundred feet on to a piece of land or a construction site where I’ve got some engineering or real estate brokerage going on. And as regards, the Road Ranger, well, that’s pretty weird and unusual by anyone’s standard. But I’m not doing anything risky with either one (except driving in traffic).

Another disclaimer, this is my personal opinion, and is not the opinion of thetherangerstation.com. These are some thoughts I have, and it is not advice, advising you to bend the rules. My thoughts are that if you’re using the vehicle and you were to have an accident, what’s the plausible reason why you were using the collector vehicle at that moment in time? You can’t say you’re going to a show if there is no show, but you could be going to test out something modified recently. Get the idea?

And I guess my last thought is you absolutely can’t beat the savings on the cost of insurance. But keep in mind the downside, that if something happens and they cancel you, you’re going to pay more for insurance for a long time.

Just the two cents and ranting of an old man with a foggy brain. I hope it helps.
 
And again, if you want to chat about it a little bit, PM and I’ll give you my phone number. I have a lot of experience with this stuff. I’m in Atlanta, 9am-9pm EST please and thanks
 
I have Hagerty on my 66 F100 and on my 89 Mark VII. Its affordable and you basically tell them the valuation you want on the vehicle and they agree to it (or counter if they think its way out of line) so you know what you get if the vehicle gets totaled. As stated above, you must have a normal vehicle with normal insurance for daily driving, but beyond that they do not limit mileage on your collector vehicle. Fortunately I have never had a claim, but I have read decent reviews.
 
Caveat: I'm in Canada so it's possible only some or none of this applies in the USA. I'm guessing the underwriter(s) in Canada is different and maybe their call centers too.

I have 2 cars with Hagerty and can confirm what the others have said above. I've never needed to make a claim and I'm sure what Rick said is true: you'd want to give them the fewest possible reasons to reject a claim. They're kind of vague on exactly what's permissible - basically what I understood was "we're enthusiasts too, we want you to drive and enjoy your car - but don't daily drive it and don't use it for normal car stuff". I'm still not too clear on where they draw the line.

I'll just add: their customer service has been top notch. Onshore call centers (here anyway), very friendly agents, and really short wait times. Their prices are impossible to beat too, especially if they deliver on most of what they promise, with free towing and getting to keep your vehicle if they write it off. I'm under $200CAD for two cars - I think that's about $12,000 in coverage, although they're worth nowhere near that much IMHO. They're always encouraging me to bump up the coverage - doesn't seem to affect the premiums very much at all.

Really good company to deal with, in Canada at least.
 

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