Diesel tractor motor

[partin_us_99]

I dont know if this has been covered or not on this forum but i was watching a youtube video on putting a tractor motor in a truck and making 50+ mpg's. It was in a 2wd i think but i'd like to do this to a 4x4 ik it wouldnt get 50+ mpg's BUT it would be better then the less than 18 im gettin now. Does anyone know of a tractor motor that is capable of being able to do interstate speeds at a low enough rpm at 80 mph? I know alot of that will be the diff's and trans but what engine would be the best to yank out of a tractor and start fabbing up the engine mounts and all that? Any info and input you have feel free. Thanks y'all

 

[pickup]

Generally speaking, your conversion idea is probably more trouble than what its worth. If you are talking John Deere, Case, IH, tractors, a "big" 4 cyl only puts out about 60 hp, these are some of the other cons:

Engines 1990 and newer
-most have some sort of computer controlled pumps and governers.
-bellhousing pattern wont match any automotive type. you will need to make an adapter plate.
-clutches are usually oil type and very large

Older engines (1990 and older)
-most 6 cyl are physically too big
-4 cyl are heavy and underpowered.
-all have variable speed governers
-factory turbos are too slow to spool
-bellhousing adapter plate needs to be fabbed

Most ag engines do not use automotive-type engine mounts. They are typically held by the bellhousing in the rear and a bracket beneath the balancer at the front. Because of this, blocks are heavier and oilpans are cast to add stength, subsequently adding weght.

 

[dangerranger83]

I think I saw that video too, but all depends on what tractor you get it from. I have had the thought of a detriot 353 under the hood of a ranger.

 

[bobbywalter]

Generally speaking, your conversion idea is probably more trouble than what its worth. If you are talking John Deere, Case, IH, tractors, a "big" 4 cyl only puts out about 60 hp, these are some of the other cons:

Engines 1990 and newer
-most have some sort of computer controlled pumps and governers.
-bellhousing pattern wont match any automotive type. you will need to make an adapter plate.
-clutches are usually oil type and very large

Older engines (1990 and older)
-most 6 cyl are physically too big
-4 cyl are heavy and underpowered.
-all have variable speed governers
-factory turbos are too slow to spool
-bellhousing adapter plate needs to be fabbed

Most ag engines do not use automotive-type engine mounts. They are typically held by the bellhousing in the rear and a bracket beneath the balancer at the front. Because of this, blocks are heavier and oilpans are cast to add stength, subsequently adding weght.

acme adapters can adapt most of these tractor type engines to an automotive type transmission.

factory turbos are generally reconfigurable, at least easily upgraded with a different turbo


i do agree for a ranger the larger engines are not easy. and worse the easy ranger fits are also likely to be more expensive all around as well--(assuming stockish 2wd/4wd factory suspension trucks)


50 mpg??? hmmm....hard to see as easily repeatable but i am sure its been done.

 

[pickup]

acme adapters can adapt most of these tractor type engines to an automotive type transmission.

I had called them about getting an adapter for a 354 Perkins a few years ago for a neighbour's 1985 Dodge 3/4 ton 4x4 4 spd, and they said "Sorry, we dont do ag engines."
Maybe if a guy was close by, he could get something done custom by them, I didnt ask though. I ended up building it myself in the end.

There is a 4 cyl engine that will work, sort of, its from Ford 4000, and 5000 tractors built in the 70's. Non turbo'd they put out about 65-75 hp. If you were to stick a turbo on, and tweaked the pump, maybe 100 hp is possible.
They have the same bolt pattern as the small block Ford gassers.

There is a 6 cyl from a 6000 Ford tractor that works the same way, but its a fairly long engine. Maybe get upwards of 115 hp.

I have seen these engines installed in pickups locally. Even one in a 59 Edsel!

2 drawbacks are the pumps are very expensive to fix and there is really no way around the variable speed governer.

 

[superds]

Here's a company that makes adapters. http://www.phxgrp.com/transFord.htm

None too cheap but a lot of the work is already done to adapt an Ag (or industrial) engine to a Ford transmission, as long as the engine manufacturer is using standard SAE bellhousings.

 

[Ranger Kip]

I have a 35 horse Zen Ho tractor made by Yanmar, the one that was in the accident, the engine runs fine. Our hay guy offered us like $500 for it, but if you make an offer it can be yours! For a limited time only!

And wait! theres more! if you act now you can pay for the shipping!

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Guys, keep in mind that tractors are rated at the PTO not at the flywheel. My 1950's tractor has a 20hp difference between its PTO rating and that same engine as a stationary power unit (45hp to 60something). Newer fancier rigs have more extra stuff to draw on the engine.