Diesel powered Mustang............

[shadetree]

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/ford/0901dp_1994_ford_mustang_duramax/index.html

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[brwntom]

Wow

Guys thats Sick!! wish i had the time and $$$ to do that do any vehicle lol

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

too bad the duramax is only one step above a boat anchor

very neat, but a cummins would have given me wood.

 

[Danger FX4 Ranger]

Built Ford tough, with other guy's stuff. He also swapped an LS1 motor into a mustang.

 

[brwntom]

yea, it might be one step above a boat anchor! but not far!

 

[low_five]

too bad the duramax is only one step above a boat anchor

wrong

 

[97ranger4x4]

very interesting. It would be nice to have a 800 hp that gets 35mpg...

 

[thegoat4]

wrong

I work on Duramaxes regularly. They're crap for durability. Yeah, they haul ass when in tip-top condition, but that does not last long before they start eating fuel systems, developing electrical quirks, derating at the drop of a hat, and breaking pistons. Since they're not sleeved and have no room for boring, that usually means a block. There's so much labor and such expensive "consumables" like gaskets and seals, it's cheaper to round up a $12,000 reman or a $17,000 new. Even then you still have to get a set of injectors since the replacement engine comes without and the piston usually breaks from over-fueling on one hole.

God forbid you need a turbo on an '03 or newer.

Personally, I'd prefer a used boat anchor.

 

[low_five]

I used to be an automotive diesel engine mechanic as well at Diesel Injection Sales and Service, San Antonio TX. Ive seen my fair share of cummins wrist pins letting go and dont get me started on powerstrokes. you know how the injector harness incorporates the valve cover gasket and fries up killing a whole bank of injectors. powerstroke injectors arent cheap either. Injection controller modules. then theres the o rings on the injectors cracking and filling the whole fuel tank with engine oil.

The cummins is probably the best of the three, but the powerstroke is more similar to a boat anchor than a duramax.

 

[Danger FX4 Ranger]

I work on Duramaxes regularly. They're crap for durability. Yeah, they haul ass when in tip-top condition, but that does not last long before they start eating fuel systems, developing electrical quirks, derating at the drop of a hat, and breaking pistons. Since they're not sleeved and have no room for boring, that usually means a block. There's so much labor and such expensive "consumables" like gaskets and seals, it's cheaper to round up a $12,000 reman or a $17,000 new. Even then you still have to get a set of injectors since the replacement engine comes without and the piston usually breaks from over-fueling on one hole.

God forbid you need a turbo on an '03 or newer.

Personally, I'd prefer a used boat anchor.

From what I have read on other forums (and even consumer reports), Ford, GM, and Dodge all have very expensive issues with their diesels.

 

[88gt]

a diesel mustang...even if it is a duracrap...i wish there was a smiley for a hard-on

 

[thegoat4]

I used to be an automotive diesel engine mechanic as well at Diesel Injection Sales and Service, San Antonio TX. Ive seen my fair share of cummins wrist pins letting go and dont get me started on powerstrokes. you know how the injector harness incorporates the valve cover gasket and fries up killing a whole bank of injectors. powerstroke injectors arent cheap either. Injection controller modules. then theres the o rings on the injectors cracking and filling the whole fuel tank with engine oil.

The cummins is probably the best of the three, but the powerstroke is more similar to a boat anchor than a duramax.

OK, you don't like powerstrokes. That does not mean Duramaxes are not crap. I do a good amount of work on International 444e motors, which are almost identical to the power strokes. Yeah, they have issues all their own. But IME, they have about twice the longevity of the Duramaxes and $10k will get you a brand new reman installed and running. I've salvaged quite a few with just a hone, some rings, pass-thrus, and a set of rockers. That never seems to be an option with the Duramaxes--they're toast.

A duramax injector costs around $50-100 more than a PS/International injector, depending on where you shop. Reman, anyway. New is closer to a $300 difference.

I have seen Duramax return lines crack and fill the crankcases with fuel, destroying the engine by the time it's caught, more often than I have seen HEUI injector o-rings give out and dump oil into the fuel tanks. Usually people notice that one when the engine shuts down from lack of actuator pressure long before the engine gets damaged by low oil.

Duramaxes have an expected longevity (from GM) of 100k, which is fairly accurate (the best seem to be close to 120-150k) and an absolute joke in a diesel. Plus, they have more failures which require pulling the engine out, like the water passage through the bell housing springing a leak. Between the high failure rates, high parts prices, low lifetimes, and ridiculous labor costs you couldn't give me one of the stupid things--unless I could sell it.

Of course, my experience is in the world of commercial trucks, where the vehicles are actually loaded down. In pickups that simply have lots of power and nothing to haul but a bedliner and maybe a cooler, yeah, I could imagine a Duramax being a little more dependable.

 

[rangerbum]

Duramaxes suck. The tuning must be perfect or they are a piece of turd. But, the duramax is a very fixable (needs fixed right after it rolls out of production line) engine. If you take a Cummins, Powerstroke, and Duramax, and chip each one. The biggest gain is typically in the duramax. But they are unreliable as a weatherman, according to some close friends who work at Don K Chevrolet.

So now It's between the Cummins and the Powerstroke. I would rather be stroked than rammed, so I pick Powerstroke

 

[LearjetMinako]

From what I see at work. Theres a lot of Chevy 1500 owners. But when it comes to diesels, theres more Ford owners. And with Ford's older 7.3L diesel, its not unusual to find one with over 300K miles and still going.

Preferable, if I were ever to own a diesel truck. I would want either a Cummins or International (Powerstroke).

 

[Maverick]