Dangerous precedent for Americans.

[woodyedmiston]

Take a look at this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/30/AR2008113002217_pf.html

 

[ForOffRoadDriving]

kinda scary, soon we wont be able to poop without the government knowing what color it was.

 

[rangerbum]

kinda scary, soon we wont be able to poop without the government knowing what color it was.

If the govenrment thinks they are prepared to see some of the turds I drop, than they can go ahead and have a look-see, but may god be with them when they get that surprise.

 

[skippy]

kinda scary, soon we wont be able to poop without the government knowing what color it was.

Long Live The King Of America!

 

[74duster318]

Posse Comitatus was done away with already. It may still exist, but the govt doesn't give a shit. They've been talking about this crap for years, and now finally have started forming the troops. Now they won't have to waste time breaking your door down to take your guns, they'll just blow your damn house up as they drive down the street in an M1.

It sure is getting ugly out there...

What they should do is declare war on some of these damn gangs, clean the f-ing streets up a bit. That will solve their gun problems. We declare war on terrorism, yet we totally ignore homeland terrorists that are free do do as they please with little heat from local law enforcement. F-ing rediculous.
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Cumshot belly

 

[pillen140]

kinda scary, soon we wont be able to poop without the government knowing what color it was.

im going to go out on a limb..... BROWN!

 

[razrwild]

nope not brown
had lunch at sherwin williams

 

[svtranger04]

I have been saying this for a while but i think were one step closer to a revolution!
I hope i am not the only one fed up with our Govt. they all need to be taken out to pasture and shot. Every congressmen, Representatives, Supreme court justices, Start fresh with new people, that will kill the corruption in the govt, and get the country back on track.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
US author, diplomat, inventor, physicist, politician, & printer (1706 - 1790)

 

[Mark_88]

you cannot kill corruption...it's like, I don't know, swamp water...you can try to purify it all you want but the minute you leave it will just start being a swamp again...and when you come back to it a week later you got a bigger, nastier swamp than you had before...

We have a good system that rewards the rich and punishes the poor...why would you want to change that anyways?

 

[rsanchez78118]

too much government...

 

[Jim Oaks]

I don't see anything wrong with having a military presence available here in the US. Think about it, we send most of our people over seas to police other worlds. Who protects the homefront?

The police?

Are you kidding?

State level Police agencies (Highway Patrol/State Police) usually have a good tactical team with good equipment and a lot of trainning. The key is the level of professionalism and resources/money to train with.

Large cities have excellent swat teams.

Unfortunately, most areas are covered by small town police departments that don't have the weapons and manpower or sheriffs departments that have swat teams made up of out of shape wannna-be's who's only qualification is the fact they can hit a target. That doesn't meen there isn't good Sheriff SWAT teams out there, but not all are good.

Most police departments ony have a handgun for each officer and (1) shotgun in each car.

There's the national guard. A bunch of them are probably in Iraq. How long will it take to deploy them to your problem.

I'm a retired State Trooper. Here in Ohio, if an agency has a problem they can't deal with (riot, etc), then they call the State Patrol. State Patrol will deploy Troopers and call up the SRT (Special Response Team - same as SWAT) to come in. If they need more help the Governor sends the National Guard. Whenever I think of that I think about how well that worked out at the Kent State riot.

If I was the police chief for any community and had a situation with a heavily armed group of individuals, I would like to have the option to call a military base and have the military deploy a unit to take care of it.

Law Enforcement lacks funds and resources. I know with the Highway Patrol SRT they have trainned a lot with the military. But most agencies don't have the money to pay for trainning or equipment.

Our country needs it's military to protect us. There's nothing wrong with that.

Stop acting like there's going to be check points along the highway and you're going to have to show your papers.

 

[woodyedmiston]

Police vs. Military

Having been a police chief in two different communities, perhaps I see it differently. Once you actually have the job, the principles that effect your actions take on a completely different meaning.

Having the military constantly involved in everyday life is exactly what the founders of our country intended to prevent when they set up the posse commitatus, Second Ammendment and separation of powers doctrines. England was, prior to the Revolution, not only patroling the streets with the military, but forcing people to house and feed them.

Historically, the presence of military in the daily affairs of a country leads to confrontations, abuse of power, unrest, and so on. In the 20's Woodrow Wilson's administration jailed over 50,000 people using federal government agents. They were arrested for things as simple as criticising the government's involvement in daily life.

In 2000 I attended a seminar on traffic control and environmental impact with relationship to all areas of federal, state, and local government control and funding of highways. At issue was allocation of federal funding of local projects. One woman spoke on the topic of air quality and the use of some federally subsidized roads. In that discussion, there were plans presented to place checkpoints that would require someone to justify his use of the roadway or pay an increased toll. That would be done by either entering the reason for your trip by computer ahead of time or being "certified" as a user of the roadway. Persons who did not have the electronic device in their cars would have to stop and be charged a toll based on the type of use. A trip to the hospital or a business use would be less than a trip to the beach and so forth. Please don't tell me that our government too good or too pure to consider managing your daily life with a ID checkpoint.

Be very careful what you ask for when it comes to having the federal government be involved in any part of your life. We live in interesting times.

 

[Jim Oaks]

I know that the farther you step out of local government the more difficult things can be. It's like adding more links in the communication chain.

Unless I missed something, I didn't see any mention of the military patrolling our streets. I thought it focussed on a military force that would be available here in the US to help state and local officials respond to a nuclear terrorist attack or other domestic catastrophe.

Times change. 25 years ago our only real concerns was wars between countries. Now we have to be concerned about domestic terrorism.

We need to take full advantage of our resources which also includes the use of our own military to protect our own soil instead of always fighting to save everyone elses.

 

[rangerbum]

I'm not trying to kiss a$$ by any means, but jims right. Its not like they are actually going to be doing regular checks in your everyday life. Why the hell would they want to know what color my poop is? The government isnt looking to control our lives.

But I am pretty sure that eventually it will go overboard and there will be law suits over privacy and whatnot. Its bound to happen everytime a new action is taken by the government.

I feel that the way certain aspects have changed over the past few decades(dont harass me about being 17 and talking like this) is wrong. My parents and almost every adult I know tells stories of wild things they have done in their lives. Fights theyve been in, parties, "experimenting", and all the typical stuff that the teens in the seventies and eighties did. But now we cant get away with much of that. Ever since I have been in school, if your in a fight, cops are called. Any drug suspicion at all, piss test. Parties get busted constantly around here.

So in conclusion, the reason we wear boxer shorts instead of briefs is because its our only opportunity to be free.

 

[Ranger Dave (B25)]

Posse Comitatus was done away with already. It may still exist, but the govt doesn't give a shit. They've been talking about this crap for years, and now finally have started forming the troops. Now they won't have to waste time breaking your door down to take your guns, they'll just blow your damn house up as they drive down the street in an M1.

Paranoid much?