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Clutch Question


Jspafford

Logan Andrew Feb 17, 2012
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First off, this may be completely normal operation..

I know my way around a transmission, I've replaced it twice so I know about how the clutch operates, etc.

This current clutch is the LUK from Pepboys. It has between 25-30K on it, been in there since 2006.

Ok, so this weekend, I had to close up and winterize my mom's camper. I only have the B2 and the wife's Sport Trac. I used to load up the F-250, but this is all I have. I knew I had a bunch of stuff to load, so I took my small 4x8' trailer.

I loaded about 10-15 cinder blocks on it, a steel fire ring (semi rim) and some other crap. I have no idea the weight. It pulled it fine, though.

We had torrential downpours most of the overnight hours Friday night. When I went to get in the truck Sat morning I was sinking into the ground just walking. Anyway, I hitched up the trailer which was up out of the way. I needed to load some more stuff onto it. I pulled it down the hill and started to back it into the camping lot. I had to back it uphill. I was on gravel, but was going to end up in the grass.

As I began to back up the truck kept wanting to stall, obviously, load going backwards up a hill. So I had to keep giving it more throttle. Then the rear tire hit the grass. It immediately began spinning. Set e-brake, got out, locked hubs, shifted into 4-Hi. Went at it again.

The trailer has narrow 4.80X8 tires which began to sink almost immediatly.

Anyway... Long story short... I know too late!

There was a time in backing up that I had the clutch pedal completely released... or it sure as hell felt like it and I was not moving. The truck was trying to stall, but it never did.

It just did not feel right. So I ended up jerking it back into 4-Lo and it was fine.

My question is, is it possible for a clutch to just not hold and then be fine at all other times. Is the clutch just not big enough?

On the way home with it I floored it in 4th and I have no slipping.

Weird...
 
There was a time in backing up that I had the clutch pedal completely released... or it sure as hell felt like it and I was not moving. The truck was trying to stall, but it never did.

It just did not feel right. So I ended up jerking it back into 4-Lo and it was fine.

My question is, is it possible for a clutch to just not hold and then be fine at all other times. Is the clutch just not big enough?

On the way home with it I floored it in 4th and I have no slipping.

Weird...
When you say the clutch pedal was completely released, I take it you mean the clutch pedal was all the way out. That means the clutch was fully engaged as opposed to being released. That makes your statement a little confusing.

As long as it is still working without slipping, it is most likely OK. You may have overheated the clutch a little by slipping it in 4WD hi to get everything moving. This could cause the clutch to slip a little when fully engaged under high load.

I don't know much about LUK but it may be a bit on the weak side. The clamping force of the pressure plate may be suitable for normal driving but doesn't stand up well to heavy duty use.
 
Correct. With the pedal completely released... Meaning up all the way.

I think if I do another clutch I will do the 4.0L clutch.

LUK is supposed to be comparable to the OEM.
 
Happened to me before in 2 hi on pavement. I was trying to push my friends dead truck uphill, but that didnt work. Slowly engaging it just made it slip. If i let it out harder it spun the tires. The clutch worked fine after that, and i know to use low range from now on lol
 
I think if I do another clutch I will do the 4.0L clutch.


Best thing you could do. :icon_thumby:

My stock 8-7/8" clutch was the same way, it's just too damn small. Any little bit of heat and it stops grabbing all the way.
 

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