Can i do this?

[rusty ol ranger]

I was changing the big PS and AC bracket out on my 97 460 (old one cracked)

In the process of removing the PS pump from the bracket one of the damn bolts snapped.

Theres enough sticking out i think i can get a vice grip on it....but is it a bad idea to heat the mounting ear on the pump? Mostly worried about frying a seal or something.

 

[19Walt93]

I'd try it but don't heat it until it's glowing red, just warm it up a little. Hit the broken end of the bolt a couple times with a hammer and try to work it loose first.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I'd try it but don't heat it until it's glowing red, just warm it up a little. Hit the broken end of the bolt a couple times with a hammer and try to work it loose first.

Yeah i wasnt gonna melt it...just didnt know what kind of shitbox i might open.

 

[Rick W]

I don’t know what the piece you’re talking about looks like, if there is enough room, but I learned something from one of the guys working for me years ago, a simple trick.

If there’s any space between the part you’re trying to heat up, and the rest of whatever, take a high density cloth and simply soak it with water and wrap the part you don’t want to get too hot. As the water evaporates, it keeps the temperature down.

Don’t know if it’ll work for you, but I hope it helps.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I don’t know what the piece you’re talking about looks like, if there is enough room, but I learned something from one of the guys working for me years ago, a simple trick.

If there’s any space between the part you’re trying to heat up, and the rest of whatever, take a high density cloth and simply soak it with water and wrap the part you don’t want to get too hot. As the water evaporates, it keeps the temperature down.

Don’t know if it’ll work for you, but I hope it helps.

Not sure if itll work for this but thats actually great advice in general. Thanks for that

 

[pjtoledo]

is the bolt in the PS pump?????

pics please

 

[rusty ol ranger]

is the bolt in the PS pump?????

pics please

Itll be a few days before i get back to it.

But yes (whats left of) the bolt is still in the mounting ear

 

[sgtsandman]

I'm wondering if heating the bolt would be better than heating the ear for getting it out.

Maybe welding a nut to the bolt would kill two birds with one stone. Heating the bolt and giving you something more substantial to grap on to.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I'm wondering if heating the bolt would be better than heating the ear for getting it out.

Maybe welding a nut to the bolt would kill two birds with one stone. Heating the bolt and giving you something more substantial to grap on to.

I dont know. Ill get it one way or another....and probably end up replacing the pump.

But damnit that bolt wont be in it.

 

[Rick W]

I dont know. Ill get it one way or another....and probably end up replacing the pump.

But damnit that bolt wont be in it.

I take apart everything that breaks or that I break. That way, I can break it better the next time…..

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

The cans of "dust-off' or whatever computer air blasters have compressed CO2 in them. If you discharge the can while upside down liquid CO2 comes out. Its extremely cold as it phase changes. You could try that on the bolt, it may shrink it enough....
I've never actually tried this...

 

[pjtoledo]

The cans of "dust-off' or whatever computer air blasters have compressed CO2 in them. If you discharge the can while upside down liquid CO2 comes out. Its extremely cold as it phase changes. You could try that on the bolt, it may shrink it enough....
I've never actually tried this...

I do a version of this, usually drill a center hole in the bolt to freeze it from the inside.
there are also penetrating chemicals that freeze. I've had mixed results with them.

 

[Rick W]

The cans of "dust-off' or whatever computer air blasters have compressed CO2 in them. If you discharge the can while upside down liquid CO2 comes out. Its extremely cold as it phase changes. You could try that on the bolt, it may shrink it enough....
I've never actually tried this...

I’d be careful about any suggestions that start with you having to get upside down…

 

[Blmpkn]

The cans of "dust-off' or whatever computer air blasters have compressed CO2 in them. If you discharge the can while upside down liquid CO2 comes out. Its extremely cold as it phase changes. You could try that on the bolt, it may shrink it enough....
I've never actually tried this...

Would heating the bolt first add some extra mustard you think? Or would cooling it rather quick & much after a bunch of heat make it brittle or something?

 

[rusty ol ranger]

is the bolt in the PS pump?????

pics please

Well...

I went out today to try this and it went like this...

Vice grips=Fail
Pipewrench= Fail
Vice Grips+heat=fail
Pipewrench+heat= fail

So i take it and start drilling the bolt open to try an easy out....another failure. Easy out wanted to snap.

So...i think "f*** this bolt" and drilled all the way through....only to realize evidently the damn bolt runs on a bit of an angle and by the time i got through i was basically off the bolt and well into the pump ear.

Now im really pissed.

So i fired up the cut off wheel and eliminated the ends of the bolt on both sides and am going to use the remaining hole to run a bolt/washer/locknut through.

Itll be a bit smaller then the factory bolt, but ill use a grade 8 and its still got 2 factory bolts out of 3. 66%...i passed school that way.

If it becomes an issue ill go grab the pump off the 90 F250 i pulled the bracket from in the junkyard.