California green... Disgusting

[pjtoledo]

Cruised my buddies brand new Prius today... 54mpg and he can make it get better just cause hes driven it more.

54 mpg is no big effing deal. When I bought a new Jetta diesel 4 dr way back in 1982 it was rated about 57 mpg hiway. Back then the EPA numbers were bogus as all hell, the best I ever managed was 55 on a dedicated high mileage attempt. It was usually 48 hiway, 44 in town with me and about 300 lbs of tools & parts. Oh yeah, I once stuffed 17 bags of mulch in the trunk, and closed the lid.

'Twas a great little car.


Perry

 

[pjtoledo]

Come to Brazil with me on my next trip, there it is over $7 a gallon (or 3.8liters). Yea we have nothing, absoulutly nothing to complain about.

Huh?? What happened to all the alcohol that Brazil pioneered for use as fuel a few decades ago? Wasn't clear-cutting the rain forests to grow corn (or whatever they use) supposed to solve all their fuel problems? Please enlighten us on what's really going on.



Perry

 

[shane96ranger]

i'm fairly sure that this is only a partial quote of my post, and my point was someone was complaining, when right next door there is a worse gas price situation, and the only reason i mentioned my cost for gas, is to put it into perspective that it's not all doom and gloom for you, not just to rant and rave about it.

You are 100% correct. I just took the part that lead me to believe you were complaining.

You have been hinting that US Citizens should not complain however. But I really don't think most US Citizens know, or care for the matter, what you are paying for gas. Everyone here (and everywhere else) knows their own personal economic situation and how this cost increase is affecting them. If it's putting a cramp on their finances, can they not be upset because ________ pays more for fuel? I mean, you have to be pretty narrow minded to not see my point. This is not a matter of which country pays more for gasoline. It's a matter of what it is doing to your personal finances. And how do you or I know what "Doom and Gloom" is to someone else?

There are a lot of people here in really shitty situations because of gimmick home loans. Granted, you should always know what you're getting into. Long story, but I did get suckered into a 3-1 ARM which after 3 years could of had an interest rate as high as 13.8%. I had the option to accept it at the table, or lose my down payment. There was a lot of this shit going on here. I can only imagine how bad off I would be right now if I hadn't refinanced.

 

[--weezl--]

in a few years im sure okotoks will be part of calgary.

lol i agree

You are 100% correct. I just took the part that lead me to believe you were complaining.

You have been hinting that US Citizens should not complain however. But I really don't think most US Citizens know, or care for the matter, what you are paying for gas. Everyone here (and everywhere else) knows their own personal economic situation and how this cost increase is affecting them. If it's putting a cramp on their finances, can they not be upset because ________ pays more for fuel? I mean, you have to be pretty narrow minded to not see my point. This is not a matter of which country pays more for gasoline. It's a matter of what it is doing to your personal finances. And how do you or I know what "Doom and Gloom" is to someone else?

There are a lot of people here in really shitty situations because of gimmick home loans. Granted, you should always know what you're getting into. Long story, but I did get suckered into a 3-1 ARM which after 3 years could of had an interest rate as high as 13.8%. I had the option to accept it at the table, or lose my down payment. There was a lot of this shit going on here. I can only imagine how bad off I would be right now if I hadn't refinanced.

you're right, not every citizen knows what's right next door... and that's the problem, that's my point, that people think they are so worse off than others, but the truth is, it's not so... i'm not complaining in that one small exerpt, because i'm pissed about gas prices in canada (even though i am, i don't want to spend 80+$ to fill my truck) but more so that i hear people who are paying significantly less than me complaining about it...

i see your point, but i don't agree with it...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

again, i ask, how does that compare to a) the longevity of the tires, i bet the ones you are buying now last longer because of newer technology, or work better, and b) how does that compare to yearly income of a farmer?

Actually prices have been going up with the price of oil. Not sure when they came out but Firestone has been offering the same model of 23 degree tire for several years and the price keeps going up on them. Same stinkin tire.

Radials do perform a lot better than my bias ply and cost even more... the thought of spending that kind of money on my weekend warrior is laughable at best.

Chinese or Indian tires cost 2x more than my US made Kelly-Springfields did 10 years ago and by no means do they last longer. Even after spending most of their time sitting out side mine are still black and look new at 10 years of age. The knockoffs turn gray and crack if you look at them wrong.

Dunno how it plays out, but keeping rubber on and inflated on all the various farm implements and trucks has got to be a major expense. And cornstalks, deer antlers and pavement are still their major enemies.

 

[--weezl--]

Actually prices have been going up with the price of oil. Not sure when they came out but Firestone has been offering the same model of 23 degree tire for several years and the price keeps going up on them. Same stinkin tire.

Radials do perform a lot better than my bias ply and cost even more... the thought of spending that kind of money on my weekend warrior is laughable at best.

Chinese or Indian tires cost 2x more than my US made Kelly-Springfields did 10 years ago and by no means do they last longer. Even after spending most of their time sitting out side mine are still black and look new at 10 years of age. The knockoffs turn gray and crack if you look at them wrong.

Dunno how it plays out, but keeping rubber on and inflated on all the various farm implements and trucks has got to be a major expense. And cornstalks, deer antlers and pavement are still their major enemies.

i don't disagree with any of your points, everything is more expensive today, but that's just it... EVERYTHING is more expensive... including your wage (to your employer)

i'll bet that most things, tires, and fuel included, are on par, for what the average cost was, based on income, from xx years ago...

found a receipt from a wedding a while ago, i think it was my father's first wedding, 650$ covered all the alcohol... my brother's wedding (in 99) i think they said they paid 9000 in alcohol... but i might have these figures confused...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

i don't disagree with any of your points, everything is more expensive today, but that's just it... EVERYTHING is more expensive... including your wage (to your employer)

i'll bet that most things, tires, and fuel included, are on par, for what the average cost was, based on income, from xx years ago...

found a receipt from a wedding a while ago, i think it was my father's first wedding, 650$ covered all the alcohol... my brother's wedding (in 99) i think they said they paid 9000 in alcohol... but i might have these figures confused...

So to come out the same the average wage for a given position has almost tripled in the US in 10 years?

Minimum wage was something like $5.25 back then if I remember right (that is what I started out in high school my Senior year at in a hardware store in the fall of '02 anyway), sorry but $15.75 is still a long ways away for a lot of people yet. I do imagine high school kids across the country would sure appreciate it though.

 

[--weezl--]

minimum wage is not average income... minimum wage here doesn't go up nearly as much as the normal income of an average person... if that makes sense... if it doesn't i'll try again tomorrow when i'm not half a case in

 

[shane96ranger]

you're right, not every citizen knows what's right next door... and that's the problem, that's my point, that people think they are so worse off than others, but the truth is, it's not so... i'm not complaining in that one small exerpt, because i'm pissed about gas prices in canada (even though i am, i don't want to spend 80+$ to fill my truck) but more so that i hear people who are paying significantly less than me complaining about it...

i see your point, but i don't agree with it...

It's all good. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see why you don't feel slighted about being overcharged for gas/oil/oil products/everything though.

I really hope this Bin Laden thing doesn't give someone the bright idea that oil needs to go up again because of a disturbance in the Middle East.

 

[--weezl--]

It's all good. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I don't see why you don't feel slighted about being overcharged for gas/oil/oil products/everything though.

I really hope this Bin Laden thing doesn't give someone the bright idea that oil needs to go up again because of a disturbance in the Middle East.

my point is not about feeling slighted, infact it's the exact opposite, my point is i don't have to be a 12 year old girl who's barbie is lost, about it

 

[Jason]

If you voted Democrat (like most of NY) last election - you asked for this.

It has nothing to do with voting. Simply, we have had cheap gas for a long time. It had to end.

 

[Mark_88]

I was going to buy an electric car but was shocked by the price tag.

I know I'd get a jolt out of saving money on gas, but not really wired about paying so much for something that uses electricity...now that the power rates are going through the roof...