Best TTB steering??

[Twisted4x4]

Gonna be stuffing a D44 TTB under my 89 Ranger. Was thinking about how im gonna set up my steering when time comes. Ive seen the super runner system and pics of the rock crusher setup on here. So far the rock crusher seems to be in favor. But does anyone have any other idea? What about some type of full hydro setup? Its mainly a trail truck anymore, and I live in Ky so legal issues aint really of much concern

 

[cammeddrz]

i don't think i have seen the ttb44 successfully swapped into an rbv, has it been done before? or do you plan to be the first?

 

[Bennybooster]

Its been done by several members on here, and I think it was a stonecrusher type setup

 

[gwaii]

i don't think i have seen the ttb44 successfully swapped into an rbv, has it been done before? or do you plan to be the first?

can't be done











i think what cam was elluding to was......search.



then ask less general questions once you have a little more education under your belt.

 

[cammeddrz]

it's really hard to convey sarcasm when typing

 

[Bennybooster]

it's really hard to convey sarcasm when typing

Oh I get it haha

 

[gwaii]

it's really hard to convey sarcasm when typing

you've noticed that too,huh.

 

[countryboy]

funny gwaii isn't that want u first had in ur ranger when u converted it the first couple of days u owned it lol

 

[gwaii]

yup.


i just used the stock ranger steering.reversed the tapers on the knuckles.

even kept the manual box for quite a while.

the point is,if you read the original post you can see that there's been little effort to find out how things can be done.shooting fish in a barrel,so to speak.

i,and i'm sure many others here,have no problem answering specific questions about how to do things.but the op's question was so general in nature that it just shows a total lack of effort.

this is why i said search....then get more specific with the questions.
show some effort,then more people that have gone through the trouble to learn this stuff may be more willing to put out some effort on your behalf.

 

[Twisted4x4]

yup.


i just used the stock ranger steering.reversed the tapers on the knuckles.

even kept the manual box for quite a while.

the point is,if you read the original post you can see that there's been little effort to find out how things can be done.shooting fish in a barrel,so to speak.

i,and i'm sure many others here,have no problem answering specific questions about how to do things.but the op's question was so general in nature that it just shows a total lack of effort.

this is why i said search....then get more specific with the questions.
show some effort,then more people that have gone through the trouble to learn this stuff may be more willing to put out some effort on your behalf.

Oh Im soo sorry to have disturded your time by asking a general question of others thoughts. What Im trying to get out of this some insight from other RBV owners as to what steering systems have been used and how they liked the way they handled. Im not asking for someone to give me step by step directions on how to do this. Nor am I looking for ignorant sarcasim from someone too uptight to give their oponion on the TOPIC. For your information I am doing research on this, otherwise why would I have posted this in the first place Im going to be putting a Supercharged 302, np435, np 203/205, 8.8, and TTB D44 in my Ranger. Since I dont have a big garage or lots of extra money to put into a huge project such as this, Im gonna be working on getting as much ready as possible before I start wrenching. Whatever thoughts I get from this will help me to figure out how I want to set up my truck. Basicly Ill take the thoughts of others as to what works and what dont and transfer that into how I want to make my truck work for me. So if its too much trouble for me to ask for others thoughts then

 

[4.0B2]

the way i see the hole search thing is... yeah if you want an instant answer SEARCH. most of the questions asked on here, have been asked and answered in full detail. if i'm not busy- i'll answer the same questions over and over, hell i get that bored! lol... i've asked questions on here without searching before, mainly to have other BORED people help me look. i would think that if someone is busy then they wouldn't take the time to say anything about it. lol, no offense to the guys above me.. we bust balls a lot on here, just having a good time. to the OP, i would say stonecrusher is the best bet. there's a full thread on here about anthony and stonecrusher.. good stuff! and don't let these others bother you if they go to pick on you some. its all in good fun!

 

[4x4junkie]

Well, I guess I'm feeling a little bored right now lol So here goes...

The best TTB steering setups from a geometric standpoint are going to be your "Crossover" or "Swingset" setups. These use independent tierods that very closely match the length of both beams. The tierods mount at the ends of a centerlink that is often hung from the frame with a "swinging" shackle or idler arm on one or both sides, and cross over each other to the opposite-side knuckle (hence it's name).
Swingset setups tend to be rather complex however, and the bends needed for the tierods to clear things like the diff housing can limit it's durability (best used on 2WD trucks).

For a trail truck, I think either the Stonecrusher setup, or a K-Link setup (based off the Superlift Superrunner setup) would work best for durability. Both use straight tierods, so should be able to put up better with the stress of tires being "sidewalled" up a rock or berm, for example. The Stonecrusher wins out for simplicity (uses no centerlink), however unless you build one yourself, your only choice for ends are heim joints (the Superrunner kit comes with TREs, but you'd have to modify it, it's design is defective as it comes out of the box).

I have the Superrunner on mine (bought it before the SC setup came out). Since I've modded it (dropping the centerlink down further), it works quite well. I need to get thicker tierods on it at some point though (the d-side tierod has gotten bent already).

 

[gwaii]

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[Twisted4x4]

For a trail truck, I think either the Stonecrusher setup, or a K-Link setup (based off the Superlift Superrunner setup) would work best for durability. Both use straight tierods, so should be able to put up better with the stress of tires being "sidewalled" up a rock or berm, for example. The Stonecrusher wins out for simplicity (uses no centerlink), however unless you build one yourself, your only choice for ends are heim joints (the Superrunner kit comes with TREs, but you'd have to modify it, it's design is defective as it comes out of the box).

I have the Superrunner on mine (bought it before the SC setup came out). Since I've modded it (dropping the centerlink down further), it works quite well. I need to get thicker tierods on it at some point though (the d-side tierod has gotten bent already).

Ya one flaw Ive noticed with the Superrunner system is the tie rod end that goes to the pitman arm. Guy I knew had one and that one went bad, but the stupid thing is welded to the steering arm. Why would they make all the rest of them replaceable except that one? Ive been looking at photos and other posts about the SC setup and its looking most favorable to me so far for the type of wheeling I do. Plus with the exception of tie rod ends and heims I can make everything else for it at work.

 

[legoms013]

I'd say a modded Super Runner kit (move the center link down, and cut off and tap the end so the pitman arm TRE is replaceable), or build one from scratch with 1 ton hardware if you have the abilty.

The stonecrusher setup seems best for mostly offroad only vehicles. I wasn't too fond of its driving characteristics.

If I were you I'd do what I did to mine (a 1 ton version of the stock style) or a custom 1 ton version of the Super Runner kit.