Arc welding rods....

[lil_Blue_Ford]

A couple years ago I picked up an older used Lincoln ac-225 buzz-box from a guy who was selling off his father's stuff after his father passed away (I also got a big oxy-propane cutting outfit including a 3/4 full 100lb propane bottle). After I picked up the welder and got a handful of 6012 rod, the guy called me back a couple days later to tell me that he found more welding rod and I was welcome to come get it. I got a big green barrel, a tube, and a plastic-wrapped bundle of welding rods. The tube was easy to identify, it said it was cast iron welding rod and what was inside did indeed look like cast iron rod. The rest of the stuff I tossed in my shed and didn't think much of until I recently bought another 10lb box of rods and wondered just what all I had...

So I opened up the plastic wrapped bundle and the green barrel today.... I know what some of the stuff is, some of it I can read the designation, and probably 20-25 lbs of the stuff, I have no clue what it is (seems the bundle and the green barrel were mix-n-match).

The stuff I know what it's for (more or less):
6010
6011
6012
6013
7018
308-16 (can said Stainweld)

And I think that the one labeled 310-16 276 83 would actually be 310-16 stainless rod

Then I have:
6011 IP
7016
Super 1000
CUA1-E

The rest of the stuff I can't read any designations.... I have about 5 lbs of some stuff with red/brown flux that appears to have a single brown dot on the clamping surface. There is about a pound and a half of some short rods with a tan colored flux (very thin flux and the rods are about 1/16" thick). The rest is a mix-and-match hodgepodge of different colored fluxes (about 10 lbs of the stuff) that I can't decipher what it might be. Some of it looks like it is a match to other flavors of rod that I can identify, but without being able to positively id it, I'm hesitant to separate it out. A few of them have colored dots (blue, white, brown, yellow) on them.

Anyone able to shed some light here? I hate to throw all this stuff away but I'd hate to do that if it can be used somehow. I tried doing some searching online but that didn't yield much in the way of answers.

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

I found a forum a couple of years ago, populated with some knowledgeable people;
http://www.offroadfabnet.com/forums/index.php?
Fabrication 101 or welders and welding would be the place I would ask.
Good luck,

Richard

 

[Colin]

to me it sounds like the red/brown flux coloured rods are 6018 rods which i only like to use for cutting. i dislike all 60 series rods, i prefer the 70 series rods much better

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

I like 7018 rod, but it doesn't like rust at all.... and here in the rusty steel buckle of the rust belt - without a sandblaster, it can sometimes be rather difficult to get perfectly clean metal. 6011 will bite through anything I didn't get cleaned off (although I hate the splatter) and 6013 doesn't mind light rust either (just doesn't dig as deep). So I've kept an assortment of all three on hand and I reach for whichever is more appropriate for what I'm doing.

 

[Colin]

all the power to you then dude

 

[Ormachek]

to me it sounds like the red/brown flux coloured rods are 6018 rods which i only like to use for cutting. i dislike all 60 series rods, i prefer the 70 series rods much better

Theres no such thing as a "60 series rod", you're first 2 numbers in a carbon steel rod simply indicate the tensile strength in psi x 1000 of the weld deposit (so 60000 psi, plenty for welding mild steels) The third number indicates position (1 is all position, 2 is flat/horizontal only) the fourth number indicates what type of flux (which is what gives your rod its weld characteristics, polarity etc.). So if anything indicates a rods series, it's be the last digit. Don't be hating on a rod because its "only" 60k psi, that's still stronger than most mild steels!

 

[Colin]

Theres no such thing as a "60 series rod", you're first 2 numbers in a carbon steel rod simply indicate the tensile strength in psi x 1000 of the weld deposit (so 60000 psi, plenty for welding mild steels) The third number indicates position (1 is all position, 2 is flat/horizontal only) the fourth number indicates what type of flux (which is what gives your rod its weld characteristics, polarity etc.). So if anything indicates a rods series, it's be the last digit. Don't be hating on a rod because its "only" 60k psi, that's still stronger than most mild steels!

i know what the numbers stand for, thats just how i refer to welding rods, i just dont like how they weld compared to other rods.


you get?

 

[Ormachek]

i know what the numbers stand for, thats just how i refer to welding rods, i just dont like how they weld compared to other rods.


you get?

Well given that 6018 welds the same as 7018, just has a tad less tensile strength in the weld deposit, no. I don't "get".

Now if you're trying to say you don't like how 6010 welds vs 7018, then I can see where you're coming from. But saying you don't like how 60psi rods weld vs 70psi is like saying you prefer plain nails vs galvanized because they "hammer better"

 

[Colin]

All I was saying is that I personally don't like how they weld. It's a matter of opinion.

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

Well given that 6018 welds the same as 7018, just has a tad less tensile strength in the weld deposit, no. I don't "get".

Now if you're trying to say you don't like how 6010 welds vs 7018, then I can see where you're coming from. But saying you don't like how 60psi rods weld vs 70psi is like saying you prefer plain nails vs galvanized because they "hammer better"

Actually, I prefer resin/vinyl coated nails because they do actually hammer better....

 

[cmr2]

60's will /are not a good rod to weld anything with vibration
The rod runs hot and good first pass on painted rusted metal and bect to whip and pulse it can also be to cut steel

The 6010 IP the IP is a manufactors Id , will have some 5p++++, it's the times it was improved by manufactors

The colored rod prob are alloy s for differant nickels , since there was alot of rod for cast
Find out what he tinkered on and that will get you alot more ideas

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

60's will /are not a good rod to weld anything with vibration
The rod runs hot and good first pass on painted rusted metal and bect to whip and pulse it can also be to cut steel

The 6010 IP the IP is a manufactors Id , will have some 5p++++, it's the times it was improved by manufactors

The colored rod prob are alloy s for differant nickels , since there was alot of rod for cast
Find out what he tinkered on and that will get you alot more ideas

I'd suspect that the guy who owned the welder and all the rods knew what they all were....

Problem is, I got the welder and the rods from his son (a doctor) after the dad passed away. I asked the son a number of questions, but got no real answers.