Acetone= gas mileage?

[gw33gp]

Second of all, the price of acetone is rediculous, and if you're only making a .5 to .75 mile difference, it just doesn't seem like it's all that much worth it.

Also, given the properties of Acetone, don't you think it is actually more damaging then healthy to your engine?

The price of acetone for me is zero. I am a chemist and use acetone in many of my formulations. My company pays for the acetone and in bulk it is not that expensive. I waste o lot more acetone cleaning stuff than I use in my gasoline.

I know the properties of acetone. At the low concentrations used, it has no effect on any components in the fuel system.

You would have to spill a lot of acetone to strip paint. It evaporates so fast that if you spill a little it is gone before it does any damage. A couple times I did spill a little during fill up, it didn't even strip the wax much less the paint. If it is allowed to pool when spilled, you could see some damage to the paint.

Since I first started using acetone, I have gone through at least 20 tanks treated with acetone and all at near sea level. I have seen a little improvement gas mileage but consider it due to cleaning the fuel system to allow it to work properly, not some technical way to burn fuel more efficiently.

 

[badbronc92]

I went to walmart and bought a quart of pure acetone for $5. Using 6 oz per tank I wouldnt say the price of acetone is rediculous by any means.

 

[almostclueless]

I wonder if it would dissolve injector varnish any better than other chemicals...

 

[shadetree]

shadetree - where did you read that? I am curious..... i find it hard to believe that the gasoline is broken down in any way


I'd still like to see the results at near sea level, another curiosity....

I was going from memory, and didn't remember the exact details. It has to do with the surface tension as badbronc92 said. Here is one site of many on the subject:

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

shady

 

[badbronc92]

results 2

alright so after finishing one tank (mostly) which consisted of about 60% city driving and 40% highway with some short stints of off roading and about an hour in stop-and-go traffic, i was afraid i wouldnt get much out of this tank and be disappointed in the results. Especially since i drove back from denver today with about a 40mph headwind. However when i filled up and calculated, i got 21.01 mpg (310miles/14.75 gallons). I was astonished at this considering all the times i ran it idle in parking lots and driveways. If i could eliminate some of that idle time i believe it could be even better. I will definitely continue to put it in the next few tanks and make sure of this, but i like what i see so far. thanks all.

 

[evanesce69]

badbronc - is that 21.01 or 27.01. your original post #'s were from 19/20 to 27. I was wondering if that was a typo, or perhaps the first test was a fluke.

gw33gp - what were your before and after #'s. I realize after 20 tanks the mileage would have to of stabilized due to the acetone. What vehicle are you driving and what configuration does it have: i.e. engine, tranny, tires and gears? I realize alot of this information is already in your profile.

This would be important to compare the two results: badbronc's and yours.

 

[Big Jim M]

Guys..get a life! All the information you need is right there in Google! There also SHOULD be enough info in your belfry already to understand if it did ANYTHING good it would already be in the fuel at ALL gas stations.. Spending your time learning is a good thing but it shouldn't take but a few minutes to learn you are wasting your time in this endeavor.
Big Jim

 

[badbronc92]

there is actually a push for acetone to be in the gas already. People are generally lazy when it comes to that kind of activism (writing your congressperson). That 27mpg came from 75 mostly hwy miles. I average about 19/20 on that same trip but got 27 this time. 21.01 mpg was on a full tank of mostly city/traffic driving and some highway miles, so it makes sense it would be considerably less. however on a tank like that i used to average 15- 15.5mpg. I know there are skeptics about it out there but it's just something you're going to have to try for yourself and see what you get. 19/20 to 27mpg hwy. 15.5 to 21.01mpg on a combined tank. Those are the numbers.

2003 Ford Ranger FX4 31x10.5x15 4.10LS, engine stock.

 

[Big Jim M]

What??

there is actually a push for acetone to be in the gas already. People are generally lazy when it comes to that kind of activism (writing your congressperson). That 27mpg came from 75 mostly hwy miles. I average about 19/20 on that same trip but got 27 this time. 21.01 mpg was on a full tank of mostly city/traffic driving and some highway miles, so it makes sense it would be considerably less. however on a tank like that i used to average 15- 15.5mpg. I know there are skeptics about it out there but it's just something you're going to have to try for yourself and see what you get. 19/20 to 27mpg hwy. 15.5 to 21.01mpg on a combined tank. Those are the numbers.

2003 Ford Ranger FX4 31x10.5x15 4.10LS, engine stock.

A PUSH? C'mon BB wake up! No "push" would be needed if that stuff did ANYTHING GOOD TO VEHICLE FUEL.. There is already many additions to our fuel to make is as good as can be..
In controlled circumstances acetone does nothing when addded to our fuel. If you wish to add acetone to your tank..go ahead. But know this...Any results you have are circumstantial.
Big Jim

 

[evanesce69]

there is nothing wrong with finding out for yourself. some folks tend to learn better that way. We are active learners and prefer the hands on approach. I know I do. Whether the results are positive or negative, the is something in being able to say "Yeah, I did that! It sucked....." or "Why didn't I try this sooner?"

Yeah it may be something someone else has already done, or maybe we are re-engineering the wheel like I am trying to do. I suppose in our own little way it is entertaining. Otherwise life would be boring, why do that????? Someone else already did it for me....




Big Jim - didn't you mention in another thread that you fish??? Think of it like this, someone else has already caught that fish, in the same way, on the same lake, with the same bait. There are books in stores and articles all over the net about fishing. Why go to the lake and cast that line when you already know what is going to happen? You either catch a fish, or you don't.

??? Or do you catch something else ????

 

[Big Jim M]

With an attitude like that

there is nothing wrong with finding out for yourself. some folks tend to learn better that way. We are active learners and prefer the hands on approach. I know I do. Whether the results are positive or negative, the is something in being able to say "Yeah, I did that! It sucked....." or "Why didn't I try this sooner?"

Yeah it may be something someone else has already done, or maybe we are re-engineering the wheel like I am trying to do. I suppose in our own little way it is entertaining. Otherwise life would be boring, why do that????? Someone else already did it for me....




Big Jim - didn't you mention in another thread that you fish??? Think of it like this, someone else has already caught that fish, in the same way, on the same lake, with the same bait. There are books in stores and articles all over the net about fishing. Why go to the lake and cast that line when you already know what is going to happen? You either catch a fish, or you don't.

??? Or do you catch something else ????

Next you will try water in the fuel...just to see if others are correct. How bout a bullet to the brain..just to find out if others are SURE of the results..
Spend a few months assuring yourself that 2+2 is really 4..
What a silly post you have made in defense of other silliness.
As for the fishing..I do it for FOOD! And I use what others have said works well to catch fish with.. Never have I tried using charcoal or hair brushes for bait!
Big Jim

 

[gw33gp]

badbronc
gw33gp - what were your before and after #'s. I realize after 20 tanks the mileage would have to of stabilized due to the acetone. What vehicle are you driving and what configuration does it have: i.e. engine, tranny, tires and gears? I realize alot of this information is already in your profile.

I don't run acetone all the time because I found out I don't need to. I used it a lot when I first started experimenting to get enough miles on it to know what I was actually getting. Most of the miles were city driving. I now average just over 16 mpg city and before I started using acetone I was averaging just under 15.5 mpg city. This is calculated using many tanks of gas so these are valid numbers. I do a lot of research in my business and know the value of good data and how to achieve it.

I have the 4.0 SOHC engine with a 5 spd manual transmission with 4.10 gears. I run 31" tires on pavement (used for mileage testing) and 32" tires off-road. The vehicle is a 2002 Ranger FX4 SuperCab with a 350 lb shell on the bed. I also have a Bama tuner and mostly run the 87 octane performance tune. That also increased my gas mileage but I was using it long before I started adding acetone. I was getting 14.5 to 15 mpg city before the tuner. I have done a few other performance mods that had no effect on gas mileage.

The best highway mileage I have ever gotten was slightly over 18 mpg while driving at 70 mph. That was without acetone in the tank but after I started using it.

Big Jim M; If I relied only on information that has been already researched and published, I would never have developed all the products that is making a lot of money for my company now. Try convincing my boss that I should not waste my time on something that has been researched to death because it will go nowhere. Get a life? I have one and I enjoy it very much. There is also a lot of information on the Internet that supports the theory that the World is flat.

 

[badbronc92]

hey big jim is just stating his opinion on the subject. the fact is there are many skeptics out there about anything having to do with better gas mileage. However, anyone who thinks that vehicles and gasoline is as efficient as can get is living in a sad fantasy world. It is already well known how inefficient american vehicles are to begin with. Why is it so hard to improve them? Lets think about something called the oil industry, and what would happen if all of the sudden every vehicle jumped to 35 mpg. The oil companies make much less money. I have no doubts that the oil industry plays a role in the research and development of new fuels and increased efficiency in the burning of gasoline. So yes while you would think something that works well to improve mpg's would catch like wildfire, you might be surprised. Everything is money driven. I'm going to continue to use acetone in my tank for as long as i continue to get these numbers.

 

[evanesce69]

i buy my fish at the market

i wonder what type fish would hit on a brush???



i've never tried acetone. I think i will have to try it now....


silly smile silly smile

 

[shadetree]

My question is, why doesn't everyone see an improvement? Why only a few? I have tried all this stuff over the years, and did not see one bit of improvement. Lubrilon, water injection, mothballs, acetone. It just doesn't happen, and a 6mpg improvement just from a few ounces of the stuff I call BS.

Fuel injection systems today, and the improvement in injectors, engine management systems, etc., has gotten the modern engine well over 90% efficiency in many cases. Any improvement in the gasoline would be minute.

I am still looking for the secret carburetor that will get over 50mpg that the oil companies have been hiding all these years. This tale has been around since I was a kid, and that has been a while.

However, I understand the learning process, and encourage those who want, to give it a shot. Who knows, you might discover another fuel to replace gasoline, oil companies be damned. shady