3.0 Performance Pulleys

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http://www.stuffforyourranger.com/s...ge=product_info&cPath=4_30_36&products_id=163

Has anyone used these? Are they worth it, can you see the difference?

 

[stmitch]

I've had the 4 piece set on my truck for almost 2 years. Love them. The truck revs much easier now. I did an e-fan conversion at the same time, and noticed about 2-3mpg gain as well as more power in the upper rpms. It felt like a brand new truck. I'd say its a must for any 3.0 owner.

 

[Big Jim M]

WHat I'm reading

I've had the 4 piece set on my truck for almost 2 years. Love them. The truck revs much easier now. I did an e-fan conversion at the same time, and noticed about 2-3mpg gain as well as more power in the upper rpms. It felt like a brand new truck. I'd say its a must for any 3.0 owner.

So you are saying that if FORD had put smaller pulleys and an E-fan on there, essentially for the same amount of cost.. All our rides would have three more miles to the gallon and MORE power? Really?
Then our Rangers would have out sold all other brands of small trucks ....wouldn't they?
Hell I wonder why, if it wouldn't have cost Ford any more money, they didn't do that?
Them damn Ford engineers must have their heads up their asses!
Or perhaps... just maybe .. It was only you and not the ford engineers that had such good results?
Is it possible that their equipment found NO GAIN and your equipment did? Why not LEND ford your advanced equipment so they can get a better reading of mpg and power.
Big Jim

 

[stmitch]

The OP asked if anyone of us HAD TRIED them. I gave my results. I didn't claim that they gave me 30 more hp. All I can do is share my personal experience with these mods. If you've done these mods too, then please post your thoughts. You're welcome to come drive my truck and compare it to your stock 3.0. Oh thats right, you don't have a 3.0. hmmm.

 

[loneranger04]

i did the pullies as well. worth the money but it was kind of a pain to put in especially if you dont have a garage. and there is a noticable gain. now take not its not going to turn your ranger into a rocket but a definent improvment.

 

[Big Jim M]

Yep!

The OP asked if anyone of us HAD TRIED them. I gave my results. I didn't claim that they gave me 30 more hp. All I can do is share my personal experience with these mods. If you've done these mods too, then please post your thoughts. You're welcome to come drive my truck and compare it to your stock 3.0. Oh thats right, you don't have a 3.0. hmmm.

I also have a 99 3.0 4X4. Your answer was you have more milage and more power from using them. Since you answered thataway maybe I'd like to have some on my ride too... Or even the original poster would like to have 3 more miles per gallon.. Do the venders gaurantee 3 more miles per gallon? If not I wonder why..
I'm specially curious as to why the Ford engineers didn't use them.. 3 miles more per gallon would make Ford famous!
Big JIm

 

[stmitch]

In that case, I'd highly reccomend you try them. As I said, I've had mine on for nearly 2 years without issue. I felt a noticeable difference in the pulling power in the upper rpms, and the entire engine is much quieter without the constant whiring of the mechanical fan. I average 18-19 highway mpg when I run e85. That number jumps to 22-23 mpg with gasoline, which is better than most 3.0's. Both the fan and the pullies have made my 3.0 much more enjoyable to drive/own. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

 

[Froggmann]

I did the e-fan and pulleys separately and picked up a noticeable amount of power and fuel economy from each. About 1mpg and a much quieter interior with the e-fan, and a skosh over 1mpg from the crank pulley. Well worth the money.

Jim--

Not trying to start anything, as I don't post here much, but many of your posts are very predictable and are from a very closed minded point of view. Posts such as the ones in this thread don't answer any questions or give any helpful advise, it just sounds like a broken record.

I'm not trying to bash you, or put you down. It simply gets old reading the same stuff over and over again. We get the point, engineers at Ford are god and they know more than anyone else in the auto industry.

Had to get that off my chest, sorry if I've offended anyone.


Jeremiah Alexander

 

[Big Jim M]

Howdy Jere

I did the e-fan and pulleys separately and picked up a noticeable amount of power and fuel economy from each. About 1mpg and a much quieter interior with the e-fan, and a skosh over 1mpg from the crank pulley. Well worth the money.

Jim--

Not trying to start anything, as I don't post here much, but many of your posts are very predictable and are from a very closed minded point of view. Posts such as the ones in this thread don't answer any questions or give any helpful advise, it just sounds like a broken record.

I'm not trying to bash you, or put you down. It simply gets old reading the same stuff over and over again. We get the point, engineers at Ford are god and they know more than anyone else in the auto industry.

Had to get that off my chest, sorry if I've offended anyone.


Jeremiah Alexander

I didn't make these posts for guys that have read them before. I made these posts for the new guys that don't know what or how to go about this or that.

I didn't notice you ragging on the other posters above that seem to think they got 3 mpg and more power! A fact that all engineers a Ford would argue against!

There is a certain idea that guys get about having outthunk the engineers that designed and built our rides. The idea is they spent 3 or 400 bucks and now have much more power and better milage!

The point that I attempt to make is.. IF it were possible it would already have been done! When all we have to go by is the bright red boxes and the advertisements a little straight forward thinking is in order.

Put that in conjunction with the TV shows that DEPEND on geegaws to have a show and you have guys spending money left and right..with no results.
NAME me one show that EVER said "don't buy one of these they don't do squat!"

Then we get guys that HAVE spent the money and might have a bit more intake noise or other exhaust noise and they THINK that means power or milage.. Or perhaps they KNOW the truth but are ashamed to say they were TAKEN IN by the advertisements or the posts of others that were too ashamed to post the truth.

If a new guy is armed with all the possible facts and then he wishes to spend his money..GOOD for him! He made a well informed decesion. That's all I'm spending my time here for.

The best example I can think of is the damn K&N filters.. If you look under the hood of a NASCAR racecar you won't find one of those! Why? Because they have over a hundred grand in them engines and they cannot afford to lose one due to poor filtering.. And yet novices think they are the cats meow.

Big JIm

 

[Froggmann]

I didn't argue with the guys claiming more power and fuel economy from an e-fan and underdrive pulley because I have both mods and my results are conclusive with their results. I know from personal experience that said mods improve power and fuel economy.

Just because the factory didn't install it doesn't mean it's not a better part. If that was the case, aftermarket companies wouldn't exist and all dyno's that show power improvements from aftermarket parts are reading incorrectly. Neither is the case.

 

[stmitch]

I didn't make these posts for guys that have read them before. I made these posts for the new guys that don't know what or how to go about this or that.

I didn't notice you ragging on the other posters above that seem to think they got 3 mpg and more power! A fact that all engineers a Ford would argue against!

There is a certain idea that guys get about having outthunk the engineers that designed and built our rides. The idea is they spent 3 or 400 bucks and now have much more power and better milage!

The point that I attempt to make is.. IF it were possible it would already have been done! When all we have to go by is the bright red boxes and the advertisements a little straight forward thinking is in order.

Put that in conjunction with the TV shows that DEPEND on geegaws to have a show and you have guys spending money left and right..with no results.
NAME me one show that EVER said "don't buy one of these they don't do squat!"

Then we get guys that HAVE spent the money and might have a bit more intake noise or other exhaust noise and they THINK that means power or milage.. Or perhaps they KNOW the truth but are ashamed to say they were TAKEN IN by the advertisements or the posts of others that were too ashamed to post the truth.

If a new guy is armed with all the possible facts and then he wishes to spend his money..GOOD for him! He made a well informed decesion. That's all I'm spending my time here for.


Big JIm

I respect your opinions, as you seem to be an intelligent person, and agree completley that both sides of an issue should be considered. But why continue to argue and discount what others have done when they have personal experience with it and you have none? Think about it, you are saying that your ideas and hypotheses outwiegh our physical results and raw data.

I agree that Ford engineers have done an outstanding job in engineering our engines. That does not mean however that there is no room for improvement. The 2 most common compaints that I hear about the 3.0 are lack of power and poor fuel economy. If someone can spend $300-$400 on a couple of mods and improve both areas, then why not? (I'm not saying you'll gain 50 hp and 45mpg mind you, but myself and many others have seen improvement)

I'd suggest anyone who's considering these mods do your research on this and other ranger sites. I've never heard anyone who has actually done these mods say anything negative about them.

 

[locovaca]

I respect your opinions, as you seem to be an intelligent person, and agree completley that both sides of an issue should be considered. But why continue to argue and discount what others have done when they have personal experience with it and you have none? Think about it, you are saying that your ideas and hypotheses outwiegh our physical results and raw data.

The problem is that "personal experience" is how myths are created and perpetuated. You reference raw data; there is no raw data in this thread except butt dyno numbers. Butt dyno, by definition, is not "raw data," it's someone's interpretation. I ran my truck without a fan at all, I didn't notice a difference in power, but I also had some specific tests that I ran to see the difference. My fan clutch, coincidentally, is perfectly functional.

And as you said, the 3.0's get knocked for power and fuel economy. Don't you think that if Ford could improve those numbers by 10% for $300-$400 they would have? If it sounds too good to be true, then it probably is.

 

[stmitch]

The raw data I was speaking of, was the mileage increase, which for some reason seems to be a fact disputable by people who have never even seen my truck. And I never claimed power would increase with just removing the mechanincal fan. I said that I noticed a gain after the pulley install and e-fan conversion, as I did them both at the same time. As I said, do your own research and come to your own conclusions. I have yet to come across a person with these mods done to their truck, that was not satisfied, or saw no gain.

 

[Rearanger]

I average 18-19 highway mpg when I run e85. That number jumps to 22-23 mpg with gasoline, which is better than most 3.0's.

My exact long term mpg's with no under drive pulley or e-fan.

I agree that Ford has many things to consider when engineering their vehicles, but for something as easy to do as smaller pulleys and e-fan, to then be able to advertise better gas mileage than competition, would seem like a no brainer. Without dyno testing it's hard to say this stuff actually works. The truck owner has a commitment for success as they've invested money and high hopes, so until there is independent testing it's just anecdotal.

 

[Froggmann]

The U/D crank pulley has been dyno proven. 8rwhp 11rwtq on an auto equipped truck.