2wd in snow.

[kemo]

I didn't say it was better, just that its not a problem if you know how to drive your 2wd ......


anybody that thinks a 2wd can't off road needs to talk to TireIron.




and we may have snow plows here, but they don't run unless there is a foot of snow on the ground (except on the Highways) or the next day. Even when I did have 4wds I didn't use it except to get in and out of my driveway.... 4wd burns too much gas. I did grow up in Coast Range in Oregon and the plows did not plow our road (or our 1/2 mile driveway for that matter) so we just learned to make do wether it was in a FWD Suzuki swift or a rwd chrysler newport (my step brother's car) or a 76 2wd F100 (my first truck)

This reinforces my statement about those who "couldn't afford 4x4 in the beginning" statement.

if fuel economy is your concern, a truck wasn't a wise choice.

 

[6.2]

Only thing 4x4 is better at then 2wd in regards to snow driving would be hills.

I live in the country. They do not plow the back roads. I've made out perfectly fine in various rwd, fwd, cars vans trucks etc.

Hills are the only thing. But just go faster and you'll make it lol.

 

[kemo]

Only thing 4x4 is better at then 2wd in regards to snow driving would be hills.

I live in the country. They do not plow the back roads. I've made out perfectly fine in various rwd, fwd, cars vans trucks etc.

Hills are the only thing. But just go faster and you'll make it lol.

or mud... or ice... or having to tow out a stuck 2wd truck from any of the above.

Or if you are this guy:

 

[Gotta_gofast]

Haha, the jeep pulls right out.

There are more advantages in the snow to have 4wd than just hills. You remain more stable, less likely to slide around. You might get better gas mileage because you are not wasting gas spinning your tire to get going and you don't need to haul around a bunch of weight everywhere you go. I'd like to see someone in 2wd push snow drifts with their bumper (unless your truck has 6" clearance lol).

I'm not saying you guys aren't cabable of doing it, I could too. But I like to leave a stop sign and not feather the throttle every moment of my journey. To be honest, I don't see any decrease in gas mileage either.

 

[Ozwynn]

my first truck was not a 4wd because I could not afford one........ I wanted a lowered F100 (never got lowered, got a big block instead). My first 4wd was a Jeep CJ7 and yet I still did not use 4wd in the snow unless I was snow wheeling.

The only people that NEED 4wd in the snow are the idiots too stupid to figure out how to get a 2wd going in the snow. 4wd only means you can go...... it does not mean you can stop. I have pulled more 4wds out of snow banks and ditches than 2wds. 4wd makes you braver than you have anyright to be on snow.

 

[tony314]

I have a rear locker, and one of the best rated AT tires for snow (General AT2). I can get around in 2wd in city streets and light snow. But anything real deep or hilly country roads forget about it. Just select 4x4 and truck up it. I pull out sooooo many 2wd trucks stuck IN THE ROAD haha usually at the base of a hill or buried in a drift. $10 here, $20 there all them tips add up.

Off topic for a sec. Where can I get a good rear locker?

 

[tony314]

my first truck was not a 4wd because I could not afford one........ I wanted a lowered F100 (never got lowered, got a big block instead). My first 4wd was a Jeep CJ7 and yet I still did not use 4wd in the snow unless I was snow wheeling.

The only people that NEED 4wd in the snow are the idiots too stupid to figure out how to get a 2wd going in the snow. 4wd only means you can go...... it does not mean you can stop. I have pulled more 4wds out of snow banks and ditches than 2wds. 4wd makes you braver than you have anyright to be on snow.

Little harsh wouldn't you say? It's not a big deal if some of us prefer to use 4 wheel drive in snow. I can drive anything in snow and get around. I drive fire trucks in snow; dodging morons to calls so lets not discuss getting around in snow with no 4 wheel drive. You won't win! No offense, but not sure whom you think you are to trash 4x4 owners by calling them idiots for using 4wheel in snow. You just made yourself look like a tool .

 

[kemo]

my first truck was not a 4wd because I could not afford one........ I wanted a lowered F100 (never got lowered, got a big block instead). My first 4wd was a Jeep CJ7 and yet I still did not use 4wd in the snow unless I was snow wheeling.

The only people that NEED 4wd in the snow are the idiots too stupid to figure out how to get a 2wd going in the snow. 4wd only means you can go...... it does not mean you can stop. I have pulled more 4wds out of snow banks and ditches than 2wds. 4wd makes you braver than you have anyright to be on snow.

My point exactly...

 

[Ozwynn]

Little harsh wouldn't you say? It's not a big deal if some of us prefer to use 4 wheel drive in snow. I can drive anything in snow and get around. I drive fire trucks in snow; dodging morons to calls so lets not discuss getting around in snow with no 4 wheel drive. You won't win! No offense, but not sure whom you think you are to trash 4x4 owners by calling them idiots for using 4wheel in snow. You just made yourself look like a tool .

who said I am ****ing trashing 4x4 owners

I am getting trashed for telling somebody to man up and drive his 2wd in the ****ing snow. I have logged almost 2 million miles and drive in the snow I could care less about your fire truck experience and it does not change the fact that I have still pulled more 4wds out of a snow bank. if you prefer 4wd great.... good for you, so do I, but I do not need it. I did not call you a pussy for it. I said the only ones that absolutely need 4wd in the winter are idiots too stupid to get a 2wd moving.

learn to read the fracking post.

My point exactly...

how?

 

[kemo]

who said I am ****ing trashing 4x4 owners

I am getting trashed for telling somebody to man up and drive his 2wd in the ****ing snow. I have logged almost 2 million miles and drive in the snow I could care less about your fire truck experience and it does not change the fact that I have still pulled more 4wds out of a snow bank. if you prefer 4wd great.... good for you, so do I, but I do not need it. I did not call you a pussy for it. I said the only ones that absolutely need 4wd in the winter are idiots too stupid to get a 2wd moving.

learn to read the fracking post.



how?

You said it yourself...

my first truck was not a 4wd because I could not afford one

Your intelligence really shows when you start swearing to make what you consider a "point".

 

[tony314]

I did not call you a pussy for it. I said the only ones that absolutely need 4wd in the winter are idiots too stupid to get a 2wd moving.

learn to read the fracking post.

I never said you called anyone a pussy. Now you are just making stuff up so settle your self down.

I think I found the first person here that dislikes me lol

 

[tony314]

But I've said my piece here and I am content. I'll drive a 2wd or 4xx4 any day, just prefer 4x4. That being said, i'm done because this will be a never ending argument that no one is going to win.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

IMO it makes more sense to either put the cart behind the horse (FWD) or just ride the horse (4wd) in inclimate weather. When the cart is in front of the horse, the horse just wants to be in front and things can get unpredicably screwy.

I have drug 2wd trucks out kicking and screaming because their front tires wouldn't roll over whatever material they were in... and they couldn't get enough bite in the rear to slide both front tires plugged. It is obviously not an ideal setup to have most of the vehicles weight over the unpowered wheels. The front wants to sink and the rear is helpless. And what little weight is back there is offset to one side so like on a Ranger the right rear tire is very overeager to spin if you look at it wrong.

4wd also gets you thrust vectoring front wheels which pulls the truck around corners rather than just slide the wheels. I fight this getting my Ranger into its shed, I need the front wheels powered to pull the front end up the hill and into the door if it is muddy, snowy or otherwise slick.

If I can't have 4wd I would much rather have fwd (or RWD with a rear engine like a old VW) The only problem with fwd is ground clearance, but up until then you will run circles around a rwd truck without a ton of weight in it (which also reduces fuel economy whether it is needed at the moment or not)

 

[Grey_04]

Little harsh wouldn't you say? It's not a big deal if some of us prefer to use 4 wheel drive in snow. I can drive anything in snow and get around. I drive fire trucks in snow; dodging morons to calls so lets not discuss getting around in snow with no 4 wheel drive. You won't win! No offense, but not sure whom you think you are to trash 4x4 owners by calling them idiots for using 4wheel in snow. You just made yourself look like a tool .

I agree with the fire equipment. I've seen enough 4x4's and 2 wheel drives wheels up in bad weather. it's all in the driver not the vehicle being driven. " THE KEY IS TO SLOW DOWN AND USE COMMON SENSE "

 

[6.2]

or mud... or ice... or having to tow out a stuck 2wd truck from any of the above.

Or if you are this guy:

I'm talking about winter.... There's no mud... Ice doesn't need 4x4.... And no one says you have to pull people out lol.