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2.3 no heat or pressue


Get rid of the mechanical fan, and get an electric fan. Here in Texas in the summer I only need the fan when sitting at a red light, when it gets cold here I rarely use the electric fan at all. I use a mechanical water temp gage (I don't care too much for the stock electric temp gage), and run the electric fan off a toggle switch so I can control the fan myself.

Make sure your truck still has the small water hose running from the intake manifold by the head that runs to a T that ties it in to the hose running from the thermostat housing to the heater core. Sometimes when the small water hose leaks some people will block it off at the intake, and delete the T.
 
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Dealing with this myself right now. 94 2.3

Engine won't stay up to temp and very little heat.

Changed thermostat and cleaned the system out but no luck. I noticed very little flow out of the heater core exit side when burping the system.

I guess next try will be a water pump.
 
I guess start from scratch.

Vehicle cooling systems are pretty simple to understand.

Water pump circulates coolant, it doesn't "pump it" so it adds no pressure, it just circulates fluid, it can't circulate air, air is too thin, it needs to be all fluid in the system.
Smaller hoses, like for the heater core, can get air trapped inside, this will block coolant from flowing into or out of the heater core, so no heat inside the cab but temp gauge shows "Normal" heat in the engine.
Air in the head will show up as overheating on the temp gauge.
Bad water pump will cause overheating, not over cooling.

Radiators purpose is to remove "extra heat" from the coolant, so in cooler weather the radiator may not even be used.

Thermostat sets the lowest coolant temp for radiator circulation, if you use a 195deg t-stat then there will be no flow in the radiator until coolant circulating in the engine and passed the back of the t-stat is at 195deg, at that temp t-stat opens and coolant flows thru the radiator, often the t-stat will close again as the cooler fluid from the radiator comes into the system, then re-open as it is heated up, so if you watch the temp gauge you can often see the t-stat opening, needle goes down a bit as radiator coolant comes in, and then needle slowly goes back up to normal, this can happen several times, depending on outside temp.

Simplest way to test t-stat is to start up a cold engine and feel the block as it warms up, and feel the radiator hose connected to the t-stat housing.
If radiator hose starts to heat up same as the block then t-stat is NOT blocking flow thru the radiator, as it should.
The whole point of the t-stat is to block coolant flow thru the radiator.
So if rad hose is heating up then t-stat is either open or is being bypassed, because coolant is flowing, warmer rad hose is proof of that.
So you either have a bad t-stat or bad seal or some other form of by-pass allowing circulation to the radiator.

Engines are designed to operate with coolant temp between 200-230degs, this gives the best lubrication(oil viscosity is rated at 212deg), and the best economy/MPG.
Running an engine "cooler" is not as bad as overheating, but it is not "good" you will have less effective lubrication, and of course lower MPG.

So lets say the radiator hose is not heating up so t-stat is working as it should, but engine is still not getting warm enough.
Running rich, this lowers the engine temp, rich fuel/air mix cools the cylinders more than normal/lean fuel/air mix.
MAF or MAP/Air Temp sensors malfunction(both can be tested with a simple meter)
O2 sensor, these are not used until engine temp gets to about 180deg, but could still cause a rich fuel/air mix.
Lower overall MPG would be a sign of overly rich fuel/air mix.

EGR system opening too much, EGR exhaust gas cools the cylinders, which reduces N0X, too much will cause cylinders to cool down, poor running is often the result.

Timing is retarded, the more advanced the timing the better/hotter combustion you will get.
Often timing control is not adjustable, but a sensor could be malfunctioning causing timing to be retarded.
Knock sensor, retards timing when engine pings/knocks, the "noise" of the ping may not even be heard by you, the knock sensors uses a frequency detector, if it is defective it could be retarding the timing all the time.
If Base Timing is adjustable then make sure it is where it should be.
A timing light can be used to check timing at idle and then at 2,500rpm, to make sure it is advancing as it should.


And as always never base engine temp only on what the dash board gauge shows, it has three parts, sender, wire, gauge, any of which could be compromised and reporting a lower than normal temp.
 
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What I used to have to do on my ranger was fill the system with one of the heater core hoses the one from the engine side of the thermostat. I put the coolant flush tee in the hose that goes to the heater core and lift the hose up higher than the fill on the radiator. while the engine is running pour coolant in the teeuntil water comes out the radiator cap put the cap on and top off the heater core hose and put that cap on. That fills everything up and gets the coolant flowing through the heater core. It`s worth a try.
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Just put the tee in the hose going to the thermostat housing
 
Ive also tried filling through the heater hose with no luck . I have no fan at all and there is only 2 lines for the heater core none going to the intake.
 
The heater core hoses should be too hot to hold onto. You should barely be able to touch them, only momentarily. If they are not hot, your thermostat is not working or is not sealed.
When you install the thermostat into the housing, the rubber gasket should be shoved into the stat housing. It should fit snugly or you will have coolant bypass and slow warmup.
As the other posts note, the upper radiator hose should not get hot until the stat opens. You should have heat in the cab, the heater core hoses should be ~195F, BOTH too hot to hold.
Adding a flushing tee in one of the hoses is an excellent solution, which I have also done to mine. You can 'work' the heater hoses to allow air to escape from the flushing tee, causing the system to be full of coolant. That will insure that the heater core is getting a full flow of coolant. I have parked the truck facing up hill, remove the tee cap, and checked for coolant. If low, air in the hose, I know I need to burp the system. I think I need to do that now as I just replaced the water pump and the heater output is low.
You can add coolant through the tee if desired, but generally, by raising and lowering the hoses, you can induce air bubbles to come to the tee, allowing coolant to take its place.
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If you do not build any pressure in the system, you have a leak or a defective radiator cap. ANY cooling system that is sealed will start to build pressure as soon as the coolant temperature rises at all. Old cross flow radiators in GM intermediates would overflow the radiator in about five minutes when started cold, radiator close to full. They'd really start pushing the coolant out after you shut down the engine. I think the coolant got warmed by the residual heat of the block & heads. Quite the mess.
 
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I'd pull both hoses off the heater core, hold the end of a water hose on one side, and have someone turn on the water hose so you can see if flows good.
 

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