1994 Explorer

[disvnvet]

Need a little advise.

Yesterday turned off the Freeway and stopped at the light. Everything was working fine up until then.

On acceleration after the stop, no go.

I am thinking maybe the Torque Converter blew but not sure. Don't really know what else could be at this point.

Any advice, recommendations, or what else to check would be helpful.

Anyway to verify that it is the Converter or some other cause?

Priority Issue.

Thanks

 

[Downey]

is there a ton of fluid under it? if not then its not your tc

 

[disvnvet]

I am not sure about the amount. They pushed it from the turnoff to a parking lot. It had to be towed back to the house and I was not there. I was told that it was dry where the tow truck picked up the car however, when they pushed the car into the driveway it left a trail of oil but it looked more like the power steering. Additionally, it is wet around the transmission.

Since I am not sure whether it is the converter, what else should I look for. I am hoping that it may be the manifold vacuum port or some other simple fix but not very optimistic. I won't be able to get a better picture until I look at the vehicle this afternoon.

Although not very funny, to the owner, a car had to be borrowed to pick up someone in the bay area. It broke down on the return trip and ended up with a $275.00 tow charge back to the same house where the broke down explorer sits. What a bad day.

 

[disvnvet]

More Information

Had a chance to look at vehicle a little bit closer.

Although there is a lot of fluid around the transmission area, I am almost positive that it is not the torque converter.

Now for the beef.

I am not a transmission expert beyond the point of putting in gear so what I found will need clarification.

Looking forward on the vehicle, on the left side of the tranny, just above the oil pan there are two studs with nuts. (Not sure of purpose)

The stud closest to the front of the transmission was backed out. It was only finger tight so I am assuming that it had a responsibility for retaining something, band ??, and gave up.

Assuming that this is the culprit, what are my options??

Thanks

 

[Nhaz]

I am also not a tranny person. But that bolt does sound suspiciously like a band tension bolt. And if it is and its lose. then I would suspect a broken band? I don't even know if they can break honestly. Or come lose on their own.

Since it already doesn't work maybe tighten it back up and see what happens.

 

[Downey]

yeah idk take it to a shop lol

 

[disvnvet]

Reasonable Answers

Tighten the retention bolt seems logical but maybe not a cure I think.

As far as taking to a shop, not a bad idea but too expensive. Price starts around $1800 since labor intensive.

I found a place that rebuilds tranny's on this site with a reman torque converter. Delivered around $800.

Maybe the best option. Will wait till I get tranny out and decide.

Thanks for the help.

Will keep you informed.

 

[wahl_7s]

Thats the the main clutch band adj. if it didnt completely fall apart in the trans you should be able to tighten it from the out side and drive a short distance to a trans shop and have properly adjusted! if it did fall apart it still(if the trans is still ok) should be fairly inexpensive to repair, but you have to drop the pan.

 

[disvnvet]

Eye Opener

If it did fall apart, when I remove the pan, do I have to remove anything else to get it connected.

Not sure what I am looking for however.

 

[wahl_7s]

If it did fall apart, when I remove the pan, do I have to remove anything else to get it connected.

Not sure what I am looking for however.

Ya you may have to remove the valve body. but its easy to tell w/out pulling the pan! If you turn the screw and it tightens it didn't fall apart!Hopefully if it was just finger tight it backed itself off and is not an indication of a larger problem

 

[disvnvet]

Eye Opener

Well, we were able to turn the screw nearly all the way in without any pressure or indication of tightening.

There didn't seem to be any evidence of any increase of anything and the screw is nearly bottomed out.

I am assuming that this means it did come apart.

Taking the pan off and the valve body is no problem. I guess that is the next step unless you have another idea.

Thanks

 

[Bruce]

Those screw things as you call them are the band adjusters for the intermediate band and overdrive band...front one by bell housing is the OD adjuster and the 1 in the middle of tranny is second gear. The truck will move without either of those bands functioning

If you put truck in manual low will it move??

Will it back up?

Will it move at all after it sits for awhile?? if so filter is plugged up

If it will not do any of these, then i would say the splines maybe stripped out in converter, or broken or stripped out hub or stripped out forward clutch drum splines.


Im not saying the the band strut adjusters are not creating a problem by being loose but they will not cause a non movement.

 

[disvnvet]

Eye Opener

I am really getting an education here which is very helpful.

To answer, it will not move at all in any gear.

I will be moving the vehicle to my house in a couple days.

I have all the tools here so it is easier to remove tranny in my garage.

After I get it out and have a chance to check everything, I will post the inside problems found.

Thanks for all the advice thus far.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Check the fluid level, dipstick should be near the firewall on teh passenger side of the engine.

If you lost a lot of fluid, it wouldn't move if everything inside was perfect (and it wouldn't be perfect long without fluid)