1000 lb payload on the newer Tacoma's

[bluebombersfan]

I know of a couple people who own Tacoma's and noticed there sticker on the door has a limit of only 1000 lbs. I find it strange because these trucks are a little bigger then the Ranger and have full size quad cabs in them. This means you could be over just carrying the 6 passengers it holds.
I find this doesn't make any sense. My Ranger sport has 1400 lbs payload and is a smaller truck.
Can anyone explain this mystery?

 

[wildbill23c]

I think it depends on what configuration the truck is, and remember that some stupid law that came about made manufacturers change the load/tow ratings of many trucks. Ranges from 895lbs - 1350lbs depending on cab, bed length, engine, transmission, 4x2 or 4x4, etc. Also states that the V6 with tow package allows you to tow 6300lbs, I don't think I'd wanna try that behind a 1/4 ton truck.

Course Toyota has always been kind of conservative on their ratings, but it keeps people from overloading the crap out of them for the most part. Ford, GM, and Chrysler have seemed to like to boast and over-rate their capacities and thus have more suspension problems it seems.

 

[Snoranger]

Lawyers set the numbers, not engineers. The truck may be able to handle more, but they want a safety margin built in for the people who do something stupid and then try to sue.

 

[adsm08]

If you think it's bad that your Ranger is rated for more than the Taco think about this.

The Fusion is rated for 850. The difference is less than I weigh.

 

[straycat]

If you think it's bad that your Ranger is rated for more than the Taco think about this.

The Fusion is rated for 850. The difference is less than I weigh.

^^^What he said. LOL!! It is pretty strange, but we know Tacomas can do a lot. If you have a front or rear hitch read what it is rated at. It is all about saftey issues.

 

[adsm08]

^^^What he said. LOL!! It is pretty strange

Then consider that when I first met my wife her mother, stepfather, her one sister, and any one other member of their family would have exceeded the 850 lb limit on the Fusion but said sister was looking at them.

 

[straycat]

Then consider that when I first met my wife her mother, stepfather, her one sister, and any one other member of their family would have exceeded the 850 lb limit on the Fusion but said sister was looking at them.

LOL...what that before or after dinner??.....lol

 

[bluebombersfan]

Set by lawyers? Because If I am not mistaken the Tacoma has a tow limit of 4000 lbs which I think is more then a 4.0 Ranger. So it's still strange a Tacoma can tow so much yet the payload is so low.
Also if lawyers control this it doesn't make sense because if you have 6 passengers and some tools and are in an accident you can be denied insurance. Sucks to have a Tacoma.

 

[Snoranger]

Set by lawyers? Because If I am not mistaken the Tacoma has a tow limit of 4000 lbs which I think is more then a 4.0 Ranger. So it's still strange a Tacoma can tow so much yet the payload is so low.
Also if lawyers control this it doesn't make sense because if you have 6 passengers and some tools and are in an accident you can be denied insurance. Sucks to have a Tacoma.

Yes... Set by toyota's lawyers. So if you try to sue Toyota, they can say "we told you not to do that."

Your insurance is your problem, not theirs. They cover their own ass.

 

[wildbill23c]

Remember these are actually rated 1/4 ton trucks, and I'm speaking of the Ranger, S-10, Dakota, Tacoma, and Frontier, they are not half ton trucks, so 1k in the bed is plenty in reality. Need to haul or tow more get a bigger truck.

The way I've seen people load these trucks down, and they way they drive to begin with makes me think there should be some sort of common sense test before they're allowed to buy a vehicle.

 

[naford]

There's a lot more going on then meets the eye. With Japan negotiating with the US to eliminate the 25% tariff on trucks it would be wise to under sell their full size trucks until after the negotiations are finished. They can always go back and increase the weight limit. Of course by assembling the trucks in the US they skirt the tariff. I suppose that if the tariff goes away you will find more trucks assembled overseas and less assembled in the US. That just my opinion.

 

[bluebombersfan]

I don't see how 1000lbs in the bed is considered plenty. And its 1000 lb total, so you can be over just carrying passengers with no cargo which seems just stupid to me. Otherwise 1000lb just for the bed would be reasonable.
Reason why I brought this question up is I just sold my 1000lb pop-top camper to a guy with a Tacoma. My Ranger sport had a limit of 1350lbs so I was okay legally with this on my truck and another passenger. But he will be over the legal limit with even just him driving and the camper. Also take into consideration that the non pop top camper would weigh more then this which makes the designs and weight of a typicall 1/4 ton camper to heavy for the 1/4 ton truck with passengers.

 

[adsm08]

I don't see how 1000lbs in the bed is considered plenty.

Well, considering that the Tacoma is in the 1/4 ton class and 1000 lbs is half a ton, I don't see how it isn't plenty.

Like Bill said, you want to haul more, get a bigger truck.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Well, considering that the Tacoma is in the 1/4 ton class and 1000 lbs is half a ton, I don't see how it isn't plenty.

Like Bill said, you want to haul more, get a bigger truck.

I am pretty sure my '85 is rated over 1000, it is pretty sad when a small 2 seat truck is rated with a higher payload than the big brawny looking taco that can seat four.

 

[wildbill23c]

By the time you figure different cab styles, different vehicle option packages, etc. The payload capacity is going to be all over the place for weight. A 4x2 truck has a higher payload capacity than the same style in a 4x4 configuration. Rangers were typical to have 2 or more different suspensions available as well to give different payload options. Toyota has always been very conservative with their numbers because they know that an owner is still going to overload the crap out of their truck, so they stay very conservative in hopes the owner doesn't get too carried away. I've seen some Tacoma's and even the Toyota Trucks with some pretty large travel trailers in tow, that were way over the 4k towing capacity, didn't seem to slow them down any. A lot of these numbers are set in regards to the known stability and capabilities of the vehicle. Many people don't bother to look at the numbers they say I have this truck, and this trailer, I'm gonna tow this trailer, without regards to what the manual says, or safety concerns.

It still doesn't change the fact that they are 1/4 ton rated trucks, be happy it holds 1000lbs, and I bet not a very bright move if you do so either.

You can buy a Ford F-250HD which is technically a 1 ton truck, with 3/4 ton rated springs on it, to keep taxes, registration, and insurance costs down they kept it rated as a 3/4 ton, but has 1 ton axles under it, so in theory a person could in fact swap in 1 ton springs and have an F-350.