bronco ii jeep dana 30 axle swap

[Surrey]

it only changes that i have been around jeeps and saw them run and beat on... and hold up to 35's and 4.88's

if i go bigger than 35's i want at least a d44 anyways, not d30 or d35
my b2 is gonna be a dd/ww build that will run rocks, but not the level 5 stuff.

35s are gonna grenade your d30 just the same as they would a d35...
If you want 35s, I would highly suggest the d44. I guess if you never go into any thick sticky mud, you might get a few months outta it...

Also, if its going to be your DD, putting the stronger axle would seem like an advantage too... All you need is to not be able to get to work on Monday 'cause you snapped your axle on Sunday afternoon.

 

[4.0B2]

i don't do thick mud crap.. to much clean up. if you're just mudding then you're building something i'm not...

have yall personally seen how d30's get beat on in jeeps?
35's on d30 will work with stock axles, i've seen it down so so so many times...
i'm talking trails and rocks. like superlift park in hot springs arkansas.. not a mud pit. we don't do that stuff, sure the trails get muddy, its muddy trails, no mud pit.

and tell me how to make the d44 match my 8.8 and i'll find one. i'd love to go stronger, no doubt.. who wouldn't? i could narrow it. but then its still wrong bolt pattern... i'm not going full widths and new rims and all that when a d30 will hold for me

 

[Surrey]

i don't do thick mud crap.. to much clean up. if you're just mudding then you're building something i'm not...

have yall personally seen how d30's get beat on in jeeps?
35's on d30 will work with stock axles, i've seen it down so so so many times...
i'm talking trails and rocks. like superlift park in hot springs arkansas.. not a mud pit. we don't do that stuff, sure the trails get muddy, its muddy trails, no mud pit.

and tell me how to make the d44 match my 8.8 and i'll find one. i'd love to go stronger, no doubt.. who wouldn't? i could narrow it. but then its still wrong bolt pattern... i'm not going full widths and new rims and all that when a d30 will hold for me

Yeah. I seen d30s break with 31x10.50 mud tires on 'em. That shit was pretty funny. Gotta love hauling jeeps out of mud pits with stock AWD explorers...

 

[4.0B2]

mud pits-- i know nothing about, i'll admit it. i HATE the clean up afterwards, i'd rather do trails n rocks.. more fun to me.

breaking any axle can be done, it just depends on how you drive with it... common sense. but if i'm wrong and the d30 doesn't work for me, i'll admit it. i aint scared! and i'll find a d44.. but till i prove the d30 wrong i don't see why it wouldn't work for me in my application.

 

[cammeddrz]

35's on d30 will work with stock axles

i'm sure that you have seen it, but any real wheeling on a d30 with 35s, and it's over. but it sounds like you are in the clear because you (and the jeep club) don't really wheel

just do what you want to do, just know that after you do it you will always be walking around with a "kick me" sign on your back because you were the guy who took the time to swap in a d30, something 95% of his peers chose not to do. it is your truck. and you have your reasons.

if you are still willing to do a d30 swap after a few other voices have chimed in what a bad idea it is. i'd say that you're pretty comitted to the plan. go for it worst-case-scenario: you're wrong, and you'll rectify it and move on with your life

 

[4.0B2]

ahh okay... these guys wheel. but i'm for sure not getting in that argument b/c no one will believe it. they wheel... they aint bolt on guys either.. no quadratrec catalog there, there are one and two. but the majority of them are custom built and do wheel.

like i said- tell me how to make a d44 w/ 5x4.5 bolt pattern and i'll do it. narrowed and 5x4.5

idk what you call "real" wheeling if what they do aint real... i guess just balls to wall, no strategy, pedal to the floor till the motor blows up. lets be serious... its rock crawling. its about strategy. its rock CRAWLING! they wheel.

 

[cammeddrz]

it appears that this choice is pivoting on what you have seen other people do with a d30, and no real personal experience. (not your own rig, not you wheeling it regularly)

you broke your stronger parts, and they have not broken their weaker parts. so i suggest you go back and read my post where i said:

but take into consideration the possibility that maybe those who aren't breaking parts are better drivers than those who are. wheeling is 95% skill and 5% vehicle ability. and their choice of lines coupled with their application of steering. brake, and throttle will make all the difference in whether or not a part will break

i guess just balls to wall, no strategy, pedal to the floor till the motor blows up

that isn't wheeling, you can't get very far with "no strategy" and if you are somewhere where you can.......it means the terrain isn't that complicated. especially if they're doing it with d30s with 35" tires

hillbilly chumps like that are the ones that are getting our riding areas closed......and worse yet, you are aspiring to be like them

 

[4.0B2]

Oh no. It's not hillbilly chumps.. They ride trails. Superlift. Smorr. Places made for it. You're speaking of people you know nothing about.. Sure there are some Assholes on MSJ that will ride private property n crap but not the majority. We have guys on here that trespass.. You can't deny that..

And yeah I ain't used a d30 in my b2. I have wheeled on d30's. And I know the weights of the Cherokee and b2 are pretty close by what I've been told. If the d30 doesn't work for me I'll admit it, and find a d44.

Like I said above- anything will break.. Use common sense. I think we are saying a lot of the same thing, just disagree on if a d30 will work in MY rig..

 

[1stgenxxx]

I've got a old EB dana 30 you can cut the wedges off of...also have the raduis arms, mounts, and coil buckets if you want to do some fab work.

 

[B2Guy]

my friend has a cherokee on 35's with a stock d30 and he puts his jeep through pure hell, tires aired down to 10 - 15psi and he has a real heavy foot. he's on the trails that most people will not go on without lockers, bigger tires, build axles, and he keeps up with them. now, I would never put a d30 under my bronco simply because if im doing a solid axle swap id go with a d44 which is obviously stronger.

just my 2 cents

 

[cammeddrz]

i got these from another guy here but they seemed to fit

 

[4.0B2]

The OP stated and we answered with info. Then got into a discussion of if a d30 would work.

Now the jabs at my friends that you know nothing about was stupid. You don't know them... That made me mad. But hey, I know the truth. No hard feelings on my end.

 

[cammeddrz]

The OP stated and we answered with info. Then got into a discussion of if a d30 would work.

Now the jabs at my friends that you know nothing about was stupid. You don't know them... That made me mad. But hey, I know the truth. No hard feelings on my end.

i knew what you told me about them.......anyone who wheels like that is a chump. get over it, i have chump friends too, it's ok man

 

[4.0B2]

Reread what I posted.. When did say they rode like that? I said strategy, trail riding. I even mentioned Superlift park.. I didn't say they were the balls to the walls trail rider... I said "idk what you call "real" wheeling if what they do aint real... i guess just balls to wall, no strategy, pedal to the floor till the motor blows up. lets be serious... its rock crawling. its about strategy. its rock CRAWLING! they wheel." meaning they crawl... What I was saying was the no strategy, pedal to the floor is what you consider wheeling. But I know you don't.. But when I said they rock CRAWL you came back.

But I'm done with this. Let's go wheel! Lol. It was a misunderstanding on both sides I think.. And I'll let ya know after I wheel on a d30 in my truck how it works. I'll play lab rat! Lol.

 

[RacinNdrummin]

Im gonna have to back up 4.0 here...

The D30 (provided you have the 297x shafts) is essentially the same axle as the D35... the only difference is the ring gear diameter, in which the D30 is ~5/16" smaller... Not much at all. Pinion diameter is close enough to the same (in fact exactly the same as the D44), the inners and outers are 27 spline just like the D35... Main drawback to the D30 is having unit bearings and no lockouts. Both axles have weak housings that could use gusseting. If your looking for a direct swap, or your a tinkerer and like to make your stuff work the best it can... than a D35 is for you... there is a sort of satisfaction you get in making the TTB work and showing the solid axle guys what can be done with it... but at the same time... sometimes the desire for simplicity is there, and the D30 is just as adequate as a D35 as far as that goes...Basically anything that will wreck one axle, will wreck the other... and its all dependant on how you are with your right foot...