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[sgtsandman]

Yes, we use them to sell electricity to Calif

Most are hydro-electric but we tell the Californians we use Moose and Beavers on tread mills and mouse and beaver food is expensive so not a price gouge just expensive food
But the jokes on us, they default on most power bills, send back the bills with "Not at the address" on the unopened envelope

That sad thing, is this might be true...

 

[RonD]

It is true, I read it in a Tabloid Headline

"Moose on treadmill powering Calif Air Conditioning"

 

[sgtsandman]

It is true, I read it in a Tabloid Headline

"Moose on treadmill powering Calif Air Conditioning"

That part I took for granted. I meant the part about California snubbing y'all on the bill.

 

[RonD]

Happen in the early 2000's and then Calif won a lawsuit against BC Hydro for Price Gouging in 2013, to the tune of 270million
But in fairness if you think a client won't pay you always raise the price since its a write off for taxes, lol

 

[Bill]

Happen in the early 2000's and then Calif won a lawsuit against BC Hydro for Price Gouging in 2013, to the tune of 270million
But in fairness if you think a client won't pay you always raise the price since its a write off for taxes, lol

It wasn't because they thought they weren't going to get paid. It was simply market manipulation. There were numerous companies that were sued by California. Not all of them generated electricity. Some of the companies transported electricity. It was part of that whole mess created by Enron.

2000–2001 California electricity crisis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[RonD]

Some call it manipulation, others call it freeloading

Depends on which side of the cash register you are standing, lol

 

[rubydist]

As I posted earlier, there are now test results showing that best battery life is by keeping the battery between 60% and 80% charged nearly all the time. That is not hard to do if one is just driving it to and from work roughly 20-50 miles a day.

 

[Bill]

Some call it manipulation, others call it freeloading

Depends on which side of the cash register you are standing, lol

It wasn't anything close to freeloading, and it wasn't the State that didn't pay the bills. Several of the large utilities couldn't pay the bill and the state had to bail out the utilities. PG&E in particular (which is always getting into trouble). I don't know why people think this kind of thing is OK. The issue was hammered out in the courts through multiple lawsuits and multiple angles. The discovery showed that Enron's game was to deregulate the energy markets and to intentionally create an energy shortage , and the defendants lost as a result. It has everything to do with corporate corruption. Enron wrote the laws to deregulate energy and lobbied the politicians. Corporations shouldn't be in the business of writing legislation. After the dust settled the State sued various parties involved with Enron to recover the costs.

 

[JoshT]

Not going to read everything. I'm not against EVs becoming a thing, but I don't like how they are being pushed or forced down our throats. They won't work for everyone. The infrastructure isn't there to support widespread adoption yet. Many other reasons I don't like them and think they are not a good fit for my life, some (most?) of which are already covered in the thread.

Having said that I think I might have found one EV that I have room for in my life. https://meyersmanx.com/pages/manx-2-0-ev

I could see using this as a daily driver for much of the year around here. Especially if it has a heater since our winters are fairly short and mild. Might be a fair weather ride, but I'd still have a gas/diesel ride for the nasty days. I'd be keeping a ICE truck for camping and hunting anyway. For the camping I'm pretty sure it would fit in a managable toyhauler to pull behind said truck.

 

[Uncle Gump]

Wow... the Manx is making a comeback. Who woulda thunk it.

They had a pretty large following back in the day.

I have considerable experience with these on a shortened VW beetle chassis and air cooled power plant.

 

[superj]

i didn't hit the link but saw meyers manx and immediately know what it was. there is an old original one for sale here with a spare beetle

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

i didn't hit the link but saw meyers manx and immediately know what it was. there is an old original one for sale here with a spare beetle

Link? There is someone looking for a body up here...

 

[Fast Eddie]

Not going to read everything. I'm not against EVs becoming a thing, but I don't like how they are being pushed or forced down our throats. They won't work for everyone. The infrastructure isn't there to support widespread adoption yet. Many other reasons I don't like them and think they are not a good fit for my life, some (most?) of which are already covered in the thread.

Having said that I think I might have found one EV that I have room for in my life. https://meyersmanx.com/pages/manx-2-0-ev

I could see using this as a daily driver for much of the year around here. Especially if it has a heater since our winters are fairly short and mild. Might be a fair weather ride, but I'd still have a gas/diesel ride for the nasty days. I'd be keeping a ICE truck for camping and hunting anyway. For the camping I'm pretty sure it would fit in a managable toyhauler to pull behind said truck.

Not a manx but built a tow bar for this in H.S. metal shop and towed it from NJ to NC in 1976 so I can see where that would work. I LOVE the way they kept the speedo but the seats have got to GO!

 

[Eddo Rogue]

There's alot of cool EV stuff out there besides EV's. It ain't so bad, just as someone mentioned, having it stuffed up our hineys and down our throats is a major turn off.

There is a lot of mini sized utility/sport useful or fun stuff on Alibaba or whatnot that they are not showing us.

I am looking fwd to conversion kits getting it together. I would mess with those on a few things.

 

[bilbo]

I have a 94 F250 with the IDI diesel. I've done a little research into homemade biodiesel, and once I get settled down I might try it. The process is reasonably simple. It never gets (really) cold here which simplifies living with biodiesel. I read in an article someone was even using beef fat from a processor as their source of waste oil.

That said, the new house we're looking at buying is across town from work. I'd like to just use my bicycle for commuting when it's not the rainy season. In the rainy season an EV might actually make sense. My new 'commute' would be less than 10 minutes, a short enough trip that it could actually be damaging to my ICE vehicles as they wouldn't even warm up. And again, with the weather, batteries should be happy most of the time.

I didn't mind the 30 minute commute to my previous job most of the time. There was very little traffic and it gave me a chance to wind up and down before and after work. Oftentimes in the winter it was the complete opposite, extremely stressful. It's been an adjustment not having that "me" time now and I have to remind myself of those blizzardy drives to work when I start really missing it.