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project family wheeler. chop top 1 ton explorer.


Weezl - Judging by your post, you obviously don't know the first thing about mechanics of materials. This would be a situation where you would need to read and learn rather than participate in discussion.

the first part is a very good point, and the last paragraph made me think here... if a bolt has (for arguments sake, lets use a round number) 100lbs tensile strength Tensile strength is the stress required to fail the material. It's unit for stress is essentially pressure, not force. psi not lbs. For this discussion we're talking about yield strength anyways, not ultimate tensile strength., it would have 60% of that as sheer Loading directions are independent of each other. You can load an isotropic material (steel) to the yield strength in any direction without it affecting the other directions (to keep it simple I won't get into the effect of Poisson's ratio), ok, so 60lbs sheer strength, but they don't really compound... so that being said... lets say for instance, that the 100/60lb limits were actual breaking limits... if you were to torque the bolt so that there were 99lbs of tensile pressure on the bolt, you cannot put much of any sheer force on the same bolt. basic math would imply that if you were to put 0.6lbs of sheer force on it, it would fail, however, to me, i would think it would take more than that... that being said, the 60lb normal sheer limit is not accurate with compounded stress... What I said earlier in the paragraph makes all of this void.

in other words, if you want to do it by the book, You obviously didn't read the book., for every lb of tensile pressure on the bolt, the sheer limit on that bolt should be lowered by 0.6 of a lb (60% threshold)

ie, the torque specs for a ford 8.8 are around 33ft/lbs? i'm going to guess with the ram mounted to the cover, it's going to be closer to the 50ft/lbs... with that, that gives us a clamping force, or tensile load, of about 660lbs (based off of 3/8" bolt) now subtract that from the 9300lbs of tensile strength that Kage calculated, that gives us 8640, of remaining tensile strength, multiply that by .6 (60%) gives us 5184lbs of available sheer pressure before the failure point I didn't read any of this.

here's where i lose it a little, maybe, and start guessing: lol

Kage, i assume you mean that by ksi, you mean kilos per inch^2? No. He's not mixing the Imperial and SI system. ksi = kips per square inch = kiloPOUNDS per square inch. and by that the 5184 is psi, based on the fact that the cross section of the 3/8 bolt is just that, 3/8, (measuring from the outside of the threads, which do not help the strength at all) we should be able to multiply the 5184 by .375, to give the actual sheer point of of 1944 axial lbs... You just took pounds per square inch * inch and got lbs. What happened to the other inch? You have to multiply by the shear area - exactly like Kage did. now that being said, the initial sheer won't be the perfect fit (hole for bolt) there will be a % of loss here, but lets ignore that...

Seriously, you were wrong on every single thing you said. wtf.

slo-vo - The sliders are cool as shit. Clean and high clearance. I'm excited to see the install and how they perform.
 
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Weezl - Judging by your post, you obviously don't know the first thing about mechanics of materials. This would be a situation where you would need to read and learn rather than participate in discussion.



Seriously, you were wrong on every single thing you said. wtf.

slo-vo - The sliders are cool as shit. Clean and high clearance. I'm excited to see the install and how they perform.

you're talking out your ass, now go sit in the corner
 
you're talking out your ass, now go sit in the corner

Im going to be as nice as I can about this, GTFO. You never post anything worth reading here but a bunch of off topic bullshit please for the love of god increase your post count somewhere else.

If you don't want to mount your ram on the cover of your never going to need a ram ranger THEN DON'T, nobody really cares. please next time do some research before you type because with every post you get dumber and dumber.
 
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How about instead of acting like a douche, read what he said and learn from it instead of spouting gibberish in a tech thread

Tech thread? Give it time. You remember his Ranger thread.
 
Exactly. I'd like this one to stay a little bit more on topic.
 
Spring sliders are ordered.

Now I need to figure out what kind of spring plates I need for a 2000 d60.
 
whoa.... a lot of words were said in the last couple of days.... :shok:

The placement of that ram looks awesome though... Wish mine did:sad:

Jon, things are looking good brother! Keep on Keepin on!
 
Jon, how much slide do they have, 7"?? I'm also interested in how they last longevity wise, wonder if they would be good on a weekend wheeler thats not really daily driven, but driven to and from the trails...
SVT
 
I think the slide is 9"

From what I've read they last pretty good and replacements are cheap
 
those sliders just maybe the ticket for a "shackle reversal" and still keep my low stance:icon_thumby::icon_thumby:

think I will use some degree shims to get my caster back.....really nice find on those Jon:icon_thumby::icon_thumby::icon_thumby:

l8r, John
 
just noticed the sliders... Those things are cool as hell! I am excited to see how they do
 
and you dont have to ever really worry bout the shackle "caming" over.

its just too bad that i am relying on my shackle for some of my lift. one day i'll order some lift springs until then what i have will do fine
 
just noticed the sliders... Those things are cool as hell! I am excited to see how they do

...I'm also interested in how they last longevity wise, wonder if they would be good on a weekend wheeler thats not really daily driven, but driven to and from the trails...
SVT

Ditto to the above. I would think the actual slider material would eat itself pretty quickly once some grit gets imbeded into them.

Once upon a time, I saw a slider setup, but instead of the poly sliders (or whatever they are), they used sealed roller bearings. If I come across the thread again I'll link it for some 'food for thought'. Its probably a non issue though.

...From what I've read they last pretty good and replacements are cheap

Can you link some 'long term' threads? All that I'm finding (mostly on Pirate and NAXJA) are the "hey my sliders are on" threads with no long term updates. Its a pretty cool idea that I might use in another build so I'm very curious as to how they'll hold up.
 

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